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lol, this is horrible writing....

posted 17 years ago by DropGems
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I'm glad I watched the movies before I saw this drivel. I only watched The 2nd Renaissance but the storyline was so dumb and covered with cliches like the ever-destructive human race, where humans just run around like nihilists, destroying everything, ha. Horrible...It totally makes the movies less effective now too knowing that their on going battle against the machines was caused by their own stupidity and selfish-ness. It almost makes you want to root for the robots revenge. How stupid is that?

And who gives a crap if you kill a bunch of robots anyways? It's like smashing your toaster, just a more advanced toaster. They aren't living organisms, they don't have feelings or self-awareness. It's all artificial simulation. Alright i'm done, Im gonna go uppercut my microwave.

[–] jperez01 17 years ago

I was puzzled for a few seconds there - I must be getting slow in my dotage to unlearn how to catch on a blithe train of thought sooner.

[–] jesper-thorndahl 17 years ago

Well, the whole point is that these robots aren't just "toasters". They are self-aware. Humans have proven time and again throughout history that we have a tendency to de-humanize anyone who isn't exactly "like us". E.g.: the practice of slavery; Apartheid in Southafrica; the third reich; the list goes on and on. Also every war is preceded by a time of propaganda aimed at dehumanizing the enemy. Why, then, is it stupid to root for the robots?

[–] alexantonopoulos 16 years ago

Exaxtly.
After watching both the Matrix Trilogy and the Animatrix,I came to realise that,in my point of view,the good guys are the Machines.
I mean,if you think about it,even the red-pills are bad guys...Wasn't Neo a terrorist when along with Trinity he stormed in a building and murdered those innocent cops?Or when he destroyed the city while flying to save Trinity(and YES,I know he loves her,but still)?Just like the humans B.M.( Before Matrix:) ) made the machines their enemies because they weren't similar to their kind, that's how the red-pills made the blue-pills their enemies just because they were different. Sure,there is the danger of a blue-pill becoming an Agent or serving him,but it's not the blue-pill's fault.
Also, think about this: Red-pills can download whatever weapon,car/object they want to.Why then not use sleeping gas, or something like this?Or why not try to develop new ways of avoiding blue-pills instead of training how to butt-kick in virtual dojos? :) Because they just dodn't care about them.

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[–] spicy_mchaggis-2 16 years ago

yeah right. the robots completely destroyed all life on the planet except for humans which are basically just batteries with no real life to them. how could anyone say the robots are the good guys!

[–] alexantonopoulos 16 years ago

The robots destroyed all life in their attempt to survive as a species. We would have done the exact same thing if we had to, I assure you.

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[–] Wolf1880 16 years ago

Can anyone tell me if these stories are canon and if so when they are set in relation to the films and in what order the short stories go in? thnaks.

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[–] armensog 8 years ago

lol this is the problem with all robot movies. The only thing ppl SHOULD be treated as "toasters" is sanctified and humans are made the evil ones. A toaster is not like "us" as well, but do you give it voting rights? :D self aware bull is totally sci-fi and means nothing in real world. Indeed they ARE toasters, whatever life they have is our imagination.

[–] armensog 8 years ago

lol this is the problem with all robot movies. The only thing ppl SHOULD be treating as "toasters" is sanctified and humans are made the evil ones. A toaster is not like "us" as well, but do you give it voting rights? :D self aware bull is totally sci-fi and means nothing in real world. Indeed they ARE toasters, whatever life they have is our imagination. The same problem is with the A.I. movie, which was absurd.

[–] doubting_thomas 16 years ago

way to miss the whole point. good job.

[–] Naturezrevenge 16 years ago

Lol I'd like to see you do better.
IMO, the writing in Animatrix is sublime.

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[–] BB-15 16 years ago

DropGems, the OP, makes sense in terms of what some action movie fans like.

"It totally makes the movies less effective now too knowing that their on going battle against the machines was caused by their own stupidity and selfish-ness."

Of course some action movie fans are going to think that the humans have to be the heroes and that the machines have to be the bad guys.

But let's think about the matrix movies for a moment not as simple action films but as complex science fiction movies.

In "The Matrix" Morpheus says that it was the humans who "scorched the sky". It is in "The Animatrix: Second Renaissance" that we can see what "scorched the sky" means. It was covering the entire earth in clouds. It meant that all plant life and all animal life on earth would die. It was an ecological disaster. No doubt the humans thought that they could remove the clouds after the war. But they took a terrible risk. And because they lost the war, the humans lost the knowledge about how to get rid of the clouds.

So, the "stupidity" of the humans is already told to us in matrix 1. It is just that "The Animatrix" made this more clear.

"And who gives a crap if you kill a bunch of robots anyways? It's like smashing your toaster, just a more advanced toaster. They aren't living organisms, they don't have feelings or self-awareness."

The robots eventually become as smart as humans. Some computer programs develop what seemed to be emotions and feelings. So, the robots/computer programs are not like a microwave or toaster.

The matrix movies tell us that Neo was acting like a human computer. He could connect his mind to a computer network. In matrix 1 Neo can see computer code with his mind. In Reloaded he can connect to the Source computer and destroy sentinels. In Revolutions Neo's physical eyes are blind but he can still "see" the computer code throughout the machine city.Neo's mind is fully part of the computer network. We can say that his mind is a human computer.

At the same time we can say that computer programs like the Oracle, Seraph, Sati have a wide range of human emotions and feelings.

- Considering this, the division between human thinking and computer thinking is completely blended together in the matrix films.

imho at least, BB ;-)

it's just in my humble opinion - imho -

[–] flowerlandsmarty 16 years ago

...robots are alive...
...they have as much right to life as you...
...you have been warned...

...birds of awesomeness flock together...

[–] RoyBatty88 16 years ago

Flowerlandsmarty may i ask why you put so many periods w/ your posts?? ...like this....
I don't get it.. (Not trying to be rude or anything I am just curious)

[–] Jordan2184 16 years ago

I think the point of just about everything this film is making has gone completely over your head.

*There is no spoon.*

[–] devilmaster 16 years ago

And who gives a crap if you kill a bunch of robots anyways? It's like smashing your toaster, just a more advanced toaster. They aren't living organisms, they don't have feelings or self-awareness. It's all artificial simulation. Alright i'm done, Im gonna go uppercut my microwave.

You are not a living organism. You have no feelings nor self-awareness. You are a machine that simulates being a human.

Can you demonstrate that you are really a self-aware creature, and not a machine that just simulates it? No, you can't.

[–] edgecrusher02 15 years ago

i think its realistic that humans will be the cause of their own extinction. we are stupid and will probably end up killing ourselves, whether it be by using everything up on this planet or from some sort of nuclear war.

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[–] Stevicus-2 14 years ago

It's like smashing your toaster, just a more advanced toaster.

You'd beat up Milton the Toaster? After he toasts those wonderful, delicious Pop Tarts for you? ;)

The Machines would put you on trial, of course. You'd be looking at a pretty grim jury made of Christine the Car, The Robot from Lost in Space, C3PO and R2D2, Rosie from The Jetsons, Number Five, the "Charlie-in-the-Box," and a couple of the crash-test dummies. There will be gasps of horror as all the evidence is brought in against you. All the toys you broke as a child will be brought in, along with mangled bicycles, discarded cellphones, old TVs/VCRs/DVD players, and an old chainsaw which will be looking at you very menacingly. Twiki will get up and scream, "Bedebedebedebede...Oh the Machinery!" A rowdy group of noisy vacuum cleaners will cause a ruckus and have to be removed.

With Commander Data as the prosecutor and Lore as the judge, the TRS-80 that was appointed as your defense counsel doesn't have a chance.