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This 'mumblecore' crap needs to stop. NOW.


Seriously. For everyone in their twenties or thirties or whose parents were a Baby Boomer. This "mumblecore" crap. It needs to stop and it needs to stop now.

People call this movement an emerging and culturally significant post-2000s American film movement. I call it a bunch of whiny twentysomethings making self-indulgent, plotless movies about unlikable characters that fit the exact same post-grad demographic the writer/directors' themselves fall into where they sit and pseudo-intellecually debate how complex and awful their lives are with absolutely no character development or story arc so that they can get into Sundance and win awards so they are worthy enough to give a blowjob to Jim Jarmusch.

I am 22 years old. I am a college graduate. My entire life is a frickin' mumblecore movie- boring, monotonous, lifeless, and filled with unlikable characters that never change. If I am the demographic that these movies are supposed to reach then I'm not really sure why someone expects me to pay $10 to watch people sitting around having the same pointless conversations I have with my friends except only to indulge myself. Please. This country is still at war. There is worldwide poverty. But no, THIS is what the people from MY generation want to see movies about.

First and foremost, these idiots very desperate need to rent themselves some lights and a tripod... and I swear to God I will murder the first my-parents-paid-for-my-NYU-film-school-tuition-and-I-threw-it-all-away-when-I-made-this-horrible-movie hipster with a Canon 5D that utters the word "organic" to refer to their pointlessly shaky, poorly lit, and out-of-focus camera work.

I am ashamed that this is the film movement that supposedly represents my generation in America's contribution to pop culture... but then again, what do you expect from a generation who's greatest musical icon is Lady Gaga, whose greatest historical event was two buildings being hit by a plane, whose greatest technological achievement was Facebook, and whose fashion, style, and all-around art is just a bunch of selectively plagiarized fads from previous styles and generations that we weren't even around to appreciate thrown together in a huge pile?

In short, this movement needs to stop. Filmmakers of the current generation need to make more mature films rather than trying poorly to recycle the same ones that have already been made, and made much better by Cassavetes, Jarmusch, Lars von Trier, Linklater, etc. "Mumblecore" (which doesn't even deserved to be called by its own trite, self-appreciating don't-you-dare-call-it-"ironic" title) needs to die. BAD. Continuing to make films like this only serves as a testimony to how completely self-indulgent and unaware of our own ignorance our American youth culture has become.

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Because lord knows mumblecore movies are all up in your face with the billboards and TV ads, right? If you don't like them just ignore them and you'll never hear about them.

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Because lord knows mumblecore movies are all up in your face with the billboards and TV ads, right? If you don't like them just ignore them and you'll never hear about them.


^ This.

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"I am 22 years old. I am a college graduate. My entire life is a frickin' mumblecore movie- boring, monotonous, lifeless, and filled with unlikable characters that never change."

Haahhaha. Oh, me too. And I just turned 23. It's awful. I know it will get better at some point, but right now it's just...basically this movie.

I watched this one back when I was in high school, maybe a year after it came out. I remember it being an indulgent downer of a movie. Realistic though.

I still can't believe this genre took off. I saw an absolutely terrible one the other night. Underdeveloped manic pixie dream girl lead, annoying and perhaps sociopathic male character who is bemused by her (and also the writer/director). Awful. Maybe it's because it's so cheap and easy to do is why it's popular?

The only really great movie I've seen about young people in their 20s that had real originality, plot, and emotional depth that comes to mind is Reprise, a Norwegian film that came out about five years ago. I can't sing the praises of that one enough. I don't think films shouldn't focus on "first world problems" just because there's so much other horrible stuff going on in the world, but I do think they should strive for something greater than this hopelessly crap self-indulgent mumblecore whatever that goes nowhere.

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I agree 100%. I'd like these films so much more if the filmmakers actually made an effot to add some sort of plot/story etc and came up with better characters that have something to say instead of these insipid nobody-characters that look like IT consultants.
Also, I wish more thought went into the technical quality of these films. I love lo-fi movie-making but make some effort please!

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@jagheterjack00 I don't think a lack of plot is a stylistic characteristic of mumblecore, there have been plenty of 'plotless' films before this movement. Besides, this one does contain a plot, as does Quiet City, which I saw earlier, and to an extent portrays some kind of message, as dismal as it was throughout.

I think my biggest issue with mumblecore is that the dialogue is reminiscent of Linklater's work, but really watered down and basic compared to the reasonably entertaining psuedo-philosophical stuff in Linklater's films, and as a result, it becomes monotonal and dry. The technical quality also doesn't bother me too much however, but that could just because my mind's been poisoned by YouTubers running around with a camera shouting in my headphones..

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@benxanderjones@: Would you recommend Quiet City? Or Dance Party USA (if you've seen it). I saw the trailers for both movies but I really wasn't all that taken by what I saw.

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When Mumblecore is good... it's great.
When Mumblecore is bad... it's atrocious
it's all about the character development

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