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Trevor Jones - a John Williams fan or hater?


Please listen to "The Ballon Chase" of Around the World in 80 Days and John Williams' Hook song "The Ultimate War" and please tell me, if you get a clue of something...! IT'S THE SAME SONG!!

Arman Yahyai - TARGET LONGLIFE PRODUCTIONS

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Jones obviously stole this from Williams. When watching the beginning of the movie I was like "WTF? THAT'S FROM HOOK!!!!"

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...I don't really see a big deal with Jones "stealing" music from John Williams. Williams himself "stole" music from classical composers such as Frederic Chopin and Gustav Holst (listen to the Imperial March from Star Wars - that piece is basically a remix of Chopin's Funeral March and Holst's Mars, the Bringer of War).

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- Drancron

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Apparently you have never heard of "temp-track". It is very common and almost always used practice in filmmaking. You see, before the composer starts writing his/hers score the filmmakers use existing music, sometimes classic, sometimes other film scores to put in the scenes to see where and how long each and every cue will be. And most important to set the feeling of the scene. However the filmmakers (director and/or the producers) quite often gets more or less in love with the pre-existing music they use as temporary score and that quite often leads to them asking the composer to write as close as possible a score or a similar cue that sounds just like that temp-track music. So if the composer does not want to do that he/she will probably get fired and replaced by someone who is willing to do that. So that means that even if the composer more or less is stealing he/she is not to blame, they just do what their employer ask them to do.

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