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Better/Worse Than the Original Movie?


How does this version compare to the 1965 movie?

I have never seen the new one, but I have seen the original. We had to watch it back in seventh grade social studies. I can't remember it very well, but I think it was pretty good. I also remember a few sex scenes, I think, but it was a while ago. (Surprising they let us watch it in a Catholic school.)

So, anyway, is this better than the first one?

Also, is the story basically the same, or do they change a lot of things?

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The 2002 miniseries is only about 40 minutes longer than the 1965 movie, so not much of the original novel has been restored.

For me, a few things in the miniseries were improvements. Lara is much more the mistress of her own fate and less Komarovsky's victim. The sexual frankness helps make this aspect of Lara's character (and certain plot points) clearer. Also, I think that the emphasis on the importance of Zhivago's memory of his father's death (rather than his mother's) serves the plot a little better. And I think the miniseries got Antipov's death right.

All in all, though, I think it was a wasted opportunity. I would have liked to have seen a much longer miniseries that included more of the book.

I wonder what the forthcoming Russian miniseries is going to be like? (See http://imdb.com/title/tt0417319/combined.) I hope that we in the West are going to get to see it. The IMDb is already giving its running time as nearly 7 hours (but since the miniseries it is still in pre-production I wonder how this could even be known at this point).



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WORSE than David Lean's historically first movie adaptation and so unfortunately B. Pasternak's book.

The book, I just have finished 30+ pages of the English translation so far in my entire life. Perhaps after I finished that I can tell some more. To achieve this, it may take years for the book is 590+ pages long.

Andrew Davies is a magician of adapting/converting/personifying English literature, or his own immediate culture in a country named the UK, namely Daniel Deronda, The Way We Live Now, Wives and Daughters, Vanity Fair, Emma, Pride and Prejudice, Circle of Friends, Middlemarch (incidentally, is he re-making Brideshead Revisited? Mamma mia, just don't! The one in 1981 is personification of PERFECTION.) into motions, sound, dialogues etc. But when it comes to intimidating world class literature, it may be far from his grasp. Though italians are famous for capturing natural beauty in their movies, Giacomo Campiotti cannot get hold of the revolutionary spirit in Dr. Zhivago.

I do agree that the more explicit physical contact between Lara and and the detailed description of the death of Yury's father help me understand more, still the atmosphere and the entire performance cannot be compared with David Lean's masterpiece. We can see after his adaptation, which has already hauntingly become a majestically a classic, there was no other similar daring try until 2002 by BBC, another British attempt. What a daring but failing try.

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Worse. I'm watching the movie again on TCM. I have loved it since I saw it in the theatre back in Jr. High School. David Lean's movie is so beautiful and passionate, with so many great performances. Omar Sharif is brilliant and understated as Zhivago, while Julie Christie could show the passion in looking at a postage stamp. Her face reads so beautifully the many moods of Lara. Geraldine Chaplin is bubbly and lovely as Zhivago's patient wife, and you have Alec Guinness, Ralph Richardson, Tom Courtney, Rod Steiger and Rita Tushingham in a marvelous cast.

Robert Bolt was Lean's greatest collaborator and his script tells the story as well as it could in a 3.5 hour movie. It's a magnificent film.

We don't need any more remakes of great movies. Let's remake good stories that weren't made very well the first time around. How about a remake of Hold Your Man, or Private Lives, Design for Living, or movies that don't hold up well.

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I've seen both versions and I must say, I liked the mini-series more. It seemed to explain things a little bit better, though I think the time in which the original movie was made it wasn't socially appropriate to have heavy sexual content in movies, so yea.
But all in all, the recent did explain more, and had a lot more characterization. Not to say I didn't like the original...just liked the recent better

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Worse. The Lean version is an absolute masterpiece, from the scenery, to the symbolism and music. The miniseries is amateurish in comparison, and it's hard to watch because I can't picture anyone but Omar Sharif, Julie Christie, and Alec Guinness.

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I've seen this mini first last year and again just now, and I like it. In the intervening year I have tried to watch the 1965 version on two or three separate occasions, but I couldn't get into it. I'll try one more time (and I think Lawrence of Arabia is about the best movie ever made.) I haven't read the book.
I don't know if one is better than the other, but they are different. The mini is well-done all around, nice to look at (mostly) cerebral and emotional. It messes me up to watch the whole thing if I think about it all too much.
I think if you are younger, the mini may be more accessible. If you've seen the 1965 version first, that will stick with you and color your impression of any other interpretation.

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I have watched both versions of Dr. Zhivago. The 1965 version is more historically and scenically authentic whereas the 2002 version is more romantically involving. The 1965 version of Dr. Zhivago was a huge epic dramatization whereas the 2002 version developed the characters better. As for the main characters, the following is my opinion:

Dr. Zhivago:

Omar Sharif was superb as Dr. Zhivago. In the 2002 version, Hans Matheson was brilliant. Han's horse riding skills blew me away. He looked more like a poet than Omar Sharif. However, Omar Sharif better conveyed Zhivago's longing and guilt-ridden love for Lara. Omar's walk with Julie to her apartment was heavenly romantic whereas Han's snow-play with Keira and her daughter as they reached Varykino was, to me, a complete manifestation of his love for Lara. Both actors accomplished their respective interpretations of Dr. Zhivago convingcinly. Forget the love scenes in the 2002 version. They bordered on the obscene simply because Keira was a minor when she did those love scenes.
Bear in mind that this is my opinion; one may feel differently.

Lara:

Julie Christie was more believable as Lara. She was a true victim of Victor Komarovsky. You could feel her pain especially when she was raped by Victor. Just watching her explain to Pasha in the candle light about what occurred between her and Victor, ganers nothing but sympathy for her.

Keira was a willing victim, it appears. She wanted Victor to "teach" her everything about sex. Keira played a better mother than Julie. Keira also delivered a line that every parent ought to listen to. Protect your children from the Komarovskys of the world!

Pasha:

By far, the 1965 Pasha was better. One could understand his passion for a revolution. His mother died "needlesly" when he was eight and his father died in prison. He raised himself. He detested the fact that children and the poor were starving while the rich were feasting, drinking and dancing. The brutal police permanently scared his face. To make matters worse, Victor Komarovsky, a rich, prominent and powerful lawyer deflowered his Lara. Watch how David Lean symbolized the demise of the bourgeois by having this Pasha enter the Sventiskys'Christmas gala and walk through the rich and famous to rescue his Lara.

The 2002 version of Pasha was missing in action. He did, however, replicate the mischievous and funny side of Pasha (as described in the book) when he played with the bells and got Lara and her class mates laughing in class.

Tonya:

The performance of both Tonyas were adequate. The 1965 Tonya symbolized the high society of that era. She was pampered, boarding-schooled, and fashionable. She was highly cultured and played a perfect stepford wife. No wonder, Dr. Zhivago preferred the suffering Lara.

The 2002 Tonya's performance was really more skillful. Her mama got Yuri to marry her. She was more feisty and daring. How many women would visit their husbands' lovers and confront these lovers as they are slicing vegetables with their kitchen knives? This Tonya did. She had more chemistry with her Yuri than Geraldin Chaplin had with her Yuri.


Victor Komarovsky:

The 1965 Victor looked more like the despicable chararcter described by Pasternak. Rod Steiger gave a great performance when he was pushed down the stairs by Sharif. Every time His Ugliness touched beautiful Lara, we cringed and felt her pain. He was brilliantly ugly! In the 1965 version, David Lean showed us that Yuri could indeed "kill" Victor if he insulted or laid a finger on Lara. The 1965 Yuri pushed Vicor down the icy steps. It was the only time Victor got his just deserts.

Sam Neil was a lovable villain in the the 2002 version. He was a smooth operator and one could almost feel for him. Like a dope dealer who got hooked on his drugs, this Victor set out to victimize Lara and ended up getting hooked on Lara. He was also impecably dressed and comical. As such he was not a convincing Kamarovsky as Rod Steiger was. Steiger was a beast!


Overall, both versions of Zhivago accomplihed their objectives. My teenagers love the 2002 version. My daughter fell in love with Hans and my son, an ultra conservative, loves the part where Hans, the 2002 Yuri, was captured by the partisans and humiliated about his mistress, Lara. As for me, I love the classic 1965 Zhivago and its musical score, but I cannot forget Hans Matheson as Dr. Zhivago.



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This is it exactly. Both films are well done and serve a purpose. If you're looking for a more film-y feeling one watch '65 if you want a more romantic one watch '02.

Overall I think 2002 version includes more of the book (by a touch) but the 1965 version has a few betters scene (like the candle scene!)

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I just got through watching the entire series on YT and it is so vastly superior to the 1965 film version. The latter was disjointed and depressing. This new version has taken the time do right by the story and is so beautifully and believably done. I really enjoyed it although I fail to see why they changed Lara's and Yuri's child from a girl to a boy. Everyone, including Keira, did a fantastic job.

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WORSE!!! Giacomo Campiotti is not David Lean.

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It is enjoyable, a fair tribute to the original with some new elements . The only thing that really bothered me in the new version was Komarovski. He was way to perfect, unbeatable and purely evil, almost devil like. Lean's version had a much more believable Komarovski: still a horrible person, but a human being with all the traits that go with it.

Also the music was good, not as epic as in the original, but interesting in its minimalism. Except for the Komarovski theme, that was just horrible, the attempt to create an "evil" theme was laughable. Why did they neglect such an important part of the score?

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I've read the book and i really do think the mini series is better than the 1965 version

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BETTER!!!!

The mini-series is much better in my opinion because the story is not only clearer, but it captures Pasternak's original point with astonishing clarity. The style is very Russian as well and this one is popular with the Russian audience because the characters are all portrayed as real people (not stereotypical glamourous hollywood heart-throbs) and above all, captures the raw and extremely dark world that the Russian Revolution really was. The overall look is very realistic too. In the original, everything was pretty, but not at all authentic and they focused too much on the lovestory and little on what happened to everything else. That was Pasternak's opposite point! So both films have the same plots, but are completely different interpretations. This film is NOT a remake; it's an adaption! That's where everyone gets it wrong and they think it should be just like the original. So, this film is much more real and is closer to Pasternak's vision.

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The two are very similiar. The 1965 version, unlike this one, had some parts that were very different from the book, including important parts of it. However, the new film is much more like the book, yet lacks some parts of the original version. Robert Bolt, who did the screenplay for the first movie, had the unique ability to create a wonderful story, pretty much sticking to Pasternak's main plot, and Lean followed with his masterful directing in making the classic in 197 minutes, as the 2002 version has 226. Bolt and Lean are unmatched by the filmakers of this movie. The performance by Kira Knightley was good, but it didn't come close to Christy's performance, and Sharif's, Steiger's, Courtenay's, Guinesses's, and Chaplin's are not done as well in this film. As I stated before, the similarities are many, but the directing, writing, and acting fall behind the 1965 original, thus making me believe that this movie is worse than the first, though only by a small margin.

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A new "Doctor Zhivago" is filmed in Russia, director - Alexander Proshkin. I've seen it, bought a DVD. But I actually don't know is there an English translation and when would this movie reach other countries.

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Is it good?

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