First of all, Fingesmith is a brilliant movie, having an amazing story, characters, cast, anything!
Tipping the velvet seems very 'low' comparing to Fingersmith. I'm only talking about the adaptations. I've read the book, Fingersmith, but Tipping, I still wait for it, maybe it's just the adaptation that's so ... strange. Anyway, I think there were too many characters, and I couldn't seem to 'feel' Rachel fit in the role.
What do you think?
I didn't mind Rachel as Nan but I do think she and Keely (Kitty) weren't quite butch enough looking.ITA about FS being better it is amazing and the relationship between Sue and Maud can't be equalled,I preferred the book to TTV as well.
For me while I like TTV it's lacking in heart,it doesn't explore Florence enough and concentrates on kitty too much.I would have liked to see more of Florence from the book translated onto the adaption and I guess that's my biggest complaint with it.
The full of words say,how I want you...How I love you.
Actually, I felt the exact opposite. I have "TTV" on DVD as well as the novel. I've enjoyed revisiting both; however, I also have "FS" on DVD as well as that novel. I watched "FS" before buying the book, and while I enjoyed the film, I've rarely had a desire to rewatch it. I actually became bored reading the novel and didn't care to finish it. Once I'd seen the movie and knew the twist of the story, I lost interest in the book. I thoroughly agree that the TV adaptation of "FS" was beautifully cast, with both actresses turning in wonderful performances.
As for Episode 3 of "TTV", I'm able to compartmentalize the novel from the TV adaptation and enjoy both for what they each bring entertainment-wise. I thought it was beautifully cast, also and thought the multi-talented Rachael Stirling gave an outstanding performance as Nan. And, as she always does, Jodhi May lit up the screen! Nobody brings the subtlety and subtext to a character better. She can say more with her eyes and facial expressions than most actresses can with pages of dialogue.
Oh I loved Jodhi as Flo and liked her chemistry with Rachel but there wasn't enough of Florence which is a shame as she was my favourite character.I still don't think any of the romances in TTV can come close to Sue/Maud in either the book or adaption they had unbelievable chemistry.
The full of words say,how I want you...How I love you.
So aren't we both happy that we got BOTH! You're happy, I'm happy!
and I'm happy too! :))
sharerewatching both on Logo today as I await tonight's premiere of the third novel adaption of Sarah Waters called "Affinity"...I can't imagine it being any better than FS or TTV. I had forgotten just how romantic TTV is in the first act, Its hard to pick between both, I love them both! Favorite movies!
sharedefinitely a disappointment.....'Affinity' :((
shareI enjoyed both adaptations. I'm more into the overall story of Fingersmith...I think its brilliant in every way! The film is brilliantly casted and I just love Sally Hawkins now!
"Art is I, Science is we."
-Claude Bernard
Both films are incredible, but I honestly consider Tipping The Velvet to be one of the most beautiful productions ever. Watching it gives me an enchanting natural high from start to finish!
sharenot even! i have to disagree with you completely on which movie is better. tipping the velvet far out does fingersmith. and the characters did make sense. more so than in fingersmith. imho
shareI don't agree, I think the characters in TTV are too shallow, FS made the villians and the main characters layered, TTV didn't make any of it's characters layered not even Nan. TTV was more a fun romp, FS was a enthalling drama. Though I do love both.
They're full of words, of how I want you...how...I love you
Fingersmith was told from two different perspectives, first Susan's then Maud's.
I think it was amazing!
Tipping the velvet portrayed Nan falling in love with the wrong person, traveling and trying to make an existence, having a new relationship and then be tempted again by her first love, finally choosing the one who didn't disappoint her. Boring.
i love TTV, but its a little campy. whearas fingersmith was perfect. I love love love Jodhi May tho
hey, yoda needs to give some better advice, or yoda needs to shut the *beep* up
I really enjoyed both adaptations, but what puts me off about TTV is the editing choices made. You can tell that TTV was meant for television because of the way humour is used in almost a self-mocking kind of way. Turning to prostitution isn't exactly funny but the film turns it into a joke. But more so it is composed strangely, the way there are some unnecessary flashbacks (in the same episode the event occurred) and the strange intercutting of unrelated footage, like the man's skates in the Florence/Nan kiss scene (which looked really campy with the fake night sky and meteor) and the weird negative flashes during the Florence/Nan love scene. It's also peculiar to have a jazz soundtrack attached to a Victorian costume drama.
So while the acting is quite strong I feel like I am put off by all the campiness that has been attached. Camp is only of value when a film is overtly intended to be camp all the way through. Fingersmith by comparison I think is much more believable and edited together more appropriately.
I agree with you completely! That was my problem with this series too, I think that without that ridiculous editing, it would be much better. I think the chemistry between the characters were amazing, I felt all the time goosebumps, and I havent felt it with any movie since I watched Fingersmith( yes, I watched it first) I love both movies, but just for the cheap and strange editing, I think Fingermisth is a lot better. I have to read to books, its just that im colombian and I havent found them in my country :(
shareI did like "Fingersmith" better, I think. The only thing about "Tipping the Velvet" that I suppose I didn't like was some of the narrating, and some of the cheesiness (that I think was intentional in some ways, because of the vaudeville type theme.) I did like the casting a lot :-) I liked the girl who played Kitty Butler, when she wasn't on stage, if that makes sense. I guess when I was reading the book, I imagined "on stage" Kitty Butler to be a bit ballsier (not literally, of course, even though she was a man ;-D ) I guess her singing/attitude was a bit quieter than I had imagined.
shareI haven't read the book but just watched both the movies. I watched both the movies in 2009. I was blown away by the twists of Fingersmith, the sheer chemistry between Sue and Maud. Oh God their expressions were to die for. After the movie ended I called my friend to share the magic of this movie.
I found Tipping the Velvet a good movie.
Today I watched both the movies again.. yes, both one after the other. And still I have to say Fingersmith, for me, was by far the better one..IMHO.
For me Sue and Maud were so much in love and had so much passion you could see that in their eyes and expressions. In case of TTV, I didnt find that connection neither with Nan and Kitty or Nan and Flo. I loved Flo. I would have really loved to see more scenes between Nan and Flo.
Another thing was in FS the main characters had layers to portray where as in TTV I didnt find that.. may be the book is different.