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This is one of the worst movies I've ever seen


I'm usually easy to please about movies. It takes a lot for me to really dislike one, but this one was easy for me to dislike.

I really think all these positive "oh, it's the best movie I've ever seen" reviews must have been written by people connected with the movie, or perhaps by 13-year-old girls. I might have liked it when I was 13.

Gary Busey was downright scary. He kept popping in every so often, adding nothing to the story. That comb-your-hair-with-an-eggbeater look is so wrong on him. It reminded me of Doc in the Back to the Future movies. At least Doc is supposed to be crazy. GB is freaky. (I can't believe it's the same guy I loved in The Buddy Holly Story.)

I can't figure out why "Maw," the older, tattooed woman with the horrible green eye shadow was even in the movie.

At one point, Janet's friend tells Sam, "This is killing her," and Sam tells her that it's killing him, too. My thought was that we should kill them all and let God sort them out.

If MST3000 is ever resurrected, I've got a candidate for them. There were times when I expected Joel and the robots to throw a catcall at the screen.

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Yeah, I just watched the film about an hour ago, and it's just as bad as you say. Worst of all was the direction, which screamed AMATUER from the top of it's inept lungs. But you know what, it did manage to reel me in, which even the worst films can sometimes manage to do. But don't rag on Maw; her oneliners were the best thing about this film, and while Busey defined awful, he was actually really effective in the one scene with her.

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It almost reaches the "so bad it's almost good" status. But not quite.

I'm one of these that will watch a bad movie to the end, or finish a book that's not so good. I'm always optimistic that things will get better.

Maybe they should have dumped S&J and just made a movie with Scary Gary and Maw.

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What about the guy who played Evan? I just found out about this movie by googling an old long-lost friend's name and that's him. So I guess, despite all the bad reviews, I'm going to have to try and find this to watch. I wonder if the video rental places even stock it.

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Here's a few tidbits to snack on. Rick Walker shot this movie on the cheap in order to get into the business. He stayed on his morning show through the entire process taking time off only to visit L.A. for the bar and LA shoot. Most of it was filmed in Oklahoma City. The bar scenes were filmed in OKC brick town but only for Gary's point of view. Sam's point of view toward Gary were filed in L.A. as Gary wanted an extra $15,000 cash to come to Oklahoma City. Rick matched the action later in editing. You will not see any shots where you see Gary and the table part of the bar. You only see his POV or him behind the bar. Rick edited with an edit decision list whereas a negative cutter would later assemble the master. That way he could edit it here in the state without having to purchase an expensive Avid suite. The only company with an EDL editor is a film house in Tulsa. He hooked up via DSL to his morning show from Tulsa while he was in the editing process. The wreck in the end is an after thought after test screenings. The end was bland and Rick wanted to spice it up so he went to a salvage yard and found a totaled vehicle that matched his own vehicle. He then staged it in a ditch upside down and spun the tires. Joila, you have a wreck.
Rick's financing was scarce and complicated. He maxed out every credit card he owned. It was much like Bowfinger. He used as many volunteers as possible. Only he knows how much money he spent but he was hoping to sell it at the film market in L.A. He spent a couple years renting a hotel room at the American Film Market. This is where they pick a hotel near a large multi-plex theatre and book the whole facility for a week. Nearly every hotel room is a sales office and a screening is scheduled at the nearby theatre. Completed or nearly completed movies are sold to distributors or studios. Rick was hoping for back end financing deal. Rick was not successful at the market. In the end, he sold it to Lifetime for an undisclosed amount.
Rick wanted to do a second film called, "Mind's Eye". But since someone beat him to the punch he renamed it "Radio Man".

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http://www.lysergia.com/LamaReviews/reviews6.htm#PALMER%20ROCKEY

Here's info about the absolute worst movie ever made. It doesn't even rate an IMDB listing. The guy called himself Palmer Rockey and played several different roles, and sang. He made the movie in '73/74 in Dallas, and then in '80, he rented a movie theater and played it for two weeks.

He didn't know anything about editing, because he filmed it like a play. If a scene changed, he stopped the tape and moved to the next spot, even if he had to come back and tape again at the first place. At one point, a coffin he's rented started rolling away, and he goes running after it. That stayed in the movie.

When he played two different characters in the same scene, he'd change shirts, but the shoes would be the same.

I went to see it because I knew somebody in it, and it was absolutely awful, probably even worse than Manos: Hands of Fate.

Still, I'd love to get a copy of it. My friend doesn't even like to admit that she was in it.

I love Jesus, but I drink a little.

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First, as a film school grad, this project was one of our weekend screenwriting seminars. The instructor brought in Rick Walker and some of the crew to explain this project. But as the seminar progressed, it was apparent more and more that this was more camp than organized film making. One of the huge problems with this movie was Gary Busey and his unorthodox demands. For one thing, he demanded way too much in fees at the onset and he wanted even more to actually travel to Oklahoma City to shoot his scenes. So they had to shoot all his scenes out in LA and match them up to reverse shots back in OKC.
Then to make things worse, Rick was on a short string for his budget and shooting schedules. He had to still do his morning show on radio or else face contract problems. He decided to edit the movie in Tulsa because a company had the particular editing system he wanted to use. So he still had to do his radio show via a DSL line in Tulsa. So once all the shooting was done, it was next to impossible to do callbacks as that would imply setting up scenes again or flying in people. He surely could not do any reshoots of Mr. Busey. So that meant he had to reinvent a lot of stuff and is why the end is the way it is.

Then came the major fault of just about all low budget movies. The promotion budget was severely limited. He shopped it several times at the big Film Expo in LA. That means renting a motel room and setting up a promo office. He kept it up a couple years and finally got a buyer in cable networks such as Lifetime.

Now that he made it big time and he's the next George Lucas, he produced Radio Man. Not sure about that one as I've never seen a screening location or date.

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