My GOD that was terrifying!!!


i have seen Hound of the Baskervilles done so many times and by so many people (im a huge holmes fan....[cheesy grin] can you tell?) and this was without a doubt THE most horrifying version i've ever seen...

i dont mean that in a bad way...i thought it was quite enjoyable... but it was pretty gruesome.

i mean (SPOILER ALERT!!!SPOILER ALERT!!!) at the end when the hound attacked SirHenry...it ripped his ****ing ear off!!!!! and just after Watson clocked Stapleton one in the jaw for killing Beryl (which, i thought was actually quite funny. Go Watson! Go Watson!) Stapleton grabbed the gun off Lestrade and shot Watson! (and im pretty sure i saw the doctors blood splash up the wall!!! EWW!!!) and then the chase across the ...ok im giving away too much here... but i couldnt quite believe it when i saw it!

it wasn't exactly Tarantino or anything but it was certainly a shock to my system.....wa'jdu think? freaky? or is it just me?

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I actually liked that both were younger, and not some old fogeys hobbling after some hound.

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Ian Hart was perfectly cast as Watson. It was a joy to see him reprise his role in Silk Stocking. I just hope he keeps playing Watson.

By the way, I think that this was THE best adaptation of Hound ever! I even spotted a couple of one liners sneak into the script that can be found in the book: The Hound Of The Baskervilles According To Spike Milligan.

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I also really enjoyed this version because it was DIFFERENT and the two main characters, Watson and Holmes, were not necessarily perfect or even likeable (by the way, any actor who worries about making a character "likeable" needs to re-examine WHY he or she is acting to begin with). Remember, Holmes is a rather flawed (drug addict and emotionally distant) even in the books. I liked the humanization of Watson and the addition of EMOTION into his character. Richard E. Grant's character was definitely "disturbing" and his relationship with his wife, VERY DISTURBING. That is all I have to write. Just watch the DVD/VIDEO and give this Victorian Gothic/Grand Guignol a chance. Parts of this Hounds of Baskerville are definitely designed to shock and titillate.

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The movie was not bad. But the Terence Fisher adaption of the story was much better. It had more atmosphere, made more sense and was more Sherlock-ish without shootouts and stuff like that.

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I agree. There are plenty of characters to use for action films or one can simply make up a new one (Sgt. John McClain anyone?), but to use Sherlock Holmes as a foil for "shoot 'em ups" is just too much. Watson is shot, Sir Henry loses an ear and is on death's door, Stapleton's wife beaten and hanged, Holmes chin-deep in the mud of the moors, Stapleton shot in the face and the dog gets barrels emptied from TWO guns... YIKES! Is this Hound of the Baskervilles or Lethal Weapon VII: Victorian Timewarp?

Somewhat ironically — in view of the fact that this version overloads on the melodrama and action — it is also WAY too politically correct. You have Watson "asserting his personhood", and Holmes being more sensitive to his physician friend. They have Watson constantly angry at Holmes, often disgusted with him and more than once questioning his character (for example, the night in which Sir Henry is dining with Stapleton, just before the attack). There is no sign of the delightful and colorful relationship between our two heroes. Ugh. They also seem to go out of their way to make Sir Henry Baskerville a bit of a buffoon and almost a libertine in his libido: stalking women under the mistletoe? Yuck. "How do I look in my new clothes, Watson? Am I a country gentlman?" It's obviously a dig because he's a colonist, "lets see how crass and foolish we can have the American appear!"

Why can't people just stick to the BASICS?! Change up the age of Holmes and Watson? Great! Beef up their friendship? Super! But don't futz with the personality of Holmes or the intellectual nature of the material. This isn't freaking Die Hard, after all! Do whatever you want with your own characters, but with Sherlock Holmes, show some respect... thank you.


"...nothing is left of me, each time I see her..." - Catullus

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I thought that Sir Henry Baskerville was, yes originally portrayed as a bit of an arrogant Canadian (not a yank) at first, but a little character development showed him as a little more naive, wanting to fit in, wanting to be seen as a "country gentleman". And also showing his youth in kissing the women under the mistletoe.

But that is the actor Matt Day's speciality; playing character who have this wide eyed and innocent charm about them. (See Doing time with patsy cline & Rake, both also starring Richard Roxburgh - or Sherlock holmes!).

I thought Roxburgh made a great Holmes - I had no pre-conceptions, never having really read the books or seen any other TV adaptations. Grant is almost too over-bearing to play Holmes, and this story was much more about Watson. Thought Hart was good in this role....but not overly convinced.

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I have yet to see this or any other version but I read the book 4 times in jail and I'd have to say the best part by far was the quote about Selden dying. Is it in this version? If you don't know which part I'm talking about it's the part where Barrymore's wife explains how Selden was humored too much as a child and the devil entered into him; when they tell her he's dead she weeps even though he was a ruthless savage. And the specific line I'm wondering about is: "Evil indeed is the man who has not one woman to mourn him."

Something I thought much about in jail.

"Before me only endless things are made,& I too,shall endure without end."--Dante

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I don't think the line was in this film version. But if you get the chance to see it, as I just did (on BBC1), take your chance. It doesn't follow the book in all the scenes, but the atmosphere is really there and sometimes it is breathtaking.




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the Bread will walk the Earth."

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I agree... I watched it on BBC1 just now too and was gripped. I thought Roxburgh played an excellent Homes and that Hart played a truly spectacular Watson. The sheer emotion he brought to the part was amazing. And I must admit... The one-liners were hilarious. :)

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^^ I just watched it on BBC1 too =D I thought it was fantastic. It was different from the Sherlock Holmes stuff I've seen before mainly the young Watson bugged me a bit but I must admit it was cast very well and as you say richard-III the atmosphere is breathtaking

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Yes I must see it, I agree. It's sort of hard to track down here in Alaska. I wonder though, is it in any version? I seem sort hopelessly romantic but I really like that quote and I just want to see it on the the screen sometime.

"Before me only endless things are made,& I too,shall endure without end."--Dante

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I certainly remember the quote, but that may be because I've read Arthur Conan Doyle's book.
I've seen several film versions, like the 1939 with basil Rathbone, the 1959 one with Peter Cushing, a 1972 version with Stewart Granger, a 1983 version with Ian Richardson, and even the awful parody with Peter Cooke and Dudley Moore!
In my opinion the most complete adaptation is the excellent 1988 Granada TV version with the great Jeremy Brett.
IF the quote would be in any of these films, my guess is that the Granada TV version has the best chance, so you might try and find that one. But again, I can't guarantee it.




"When there is no more room in the Oven,
the Bread will walk the Earth."

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What else did you learn in jail? I'm asking seriously, I'm not poking fun.


"...nothing is left of me, each time I see her..." - Catullus

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What's funny is that I wrote that in 2006, right before I went in for a realllly long time (2 years), so I appreciate literature much more now.

I only learned one valuable thing: People blaming drugs is just a crutch, and when it finally falls, they must come to the realization that drugs never did anything--they were failures from the outset.

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Agreed. I'm not a Holmes buff by any means, but Hound does seem to get made rather a lot. And this is The Best version I've seen. Roxburgh seemed a little stilted early on, but improved once things got going.
As the horrifyingness (?): the sceance, with the fleeting image a massive Paw at the window was brilliant.

And in the initial meeting between Bergerac, i mean doctor mortimer, and Holmes there is a tiny little piece of genius. Mortimer is relating the legend of the hound. Holmes strikes a match. Is it just me, or does that match striking sound like a growl to anyone else? to me that kind of little detail makes this for me.

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Yes, I heard that too. There were a few little growly sound effects thrown into that scene - brilliant.

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I watched it when it was repeated a couple of days after it was first broadcast, and it was dark out, and i had to shut the curtains, because I was scared this big old dog was going to jump at the window. I jumped out of my seat when the hound appears at the window.
I can't really remember what happened in much detail, but I hought it was fantastic.

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For me the scariest scenes were anything involving the marsh. I have a fear of deep water and drowning. Watching those prison guards get sucked down was quite horrifying, and when Holmes gets stuck in the same pit later on, even though I knew he was going to be rescued, it was still a pretty scary scene, because it's not every day you see Holmes in such a hopeless position with the villain having the upper hand.

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No, that whole bit about Selden being humoured is left out, so is the one about having one woman mourn for him. And a shame it is, too. I am sure it isn't in because I watched out for it: I have played Selden on stage, and have some sympathy for him - especially as I know Dartmoor reasonably well, and can feel for anyone lost there at night.

Don't worry about not having seen this version. I have seen most filmed versions, plus lots of other Holmes films, and this one is very, very, very badly done, from total miscastings to wooden acting to silly changes to the script that show utter lack of understanding of Conan Doyle and the characters of Holmes and Watson. One of the few good things in it is Grant's reliably good acting.

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