i dont know if anyone has noticed this but they have this big winged/wormy alien and its supposed to be an ancient... I DONT THINK SO, any1 who follows the far superior sg-1 and atlantis shows knows that the ancients were just like us b4 they ascended, duh! dumbass televison show producers
shareDo you not get that they had no connection with the Actual Stargate series besides name and fact they use a gate?
shareStargate Infinity came out BEFORE we knew what the ancients were. In addition, Infinity is not considered canon.
In Infinity the "big winged/wormy alien" they just thought it MIGHT be an ancient since it does seem advanced and they didn't know what it was.
We did know what the ancients look like before this program came out for one there was a eppisode in 2001 before the program started called acenshion which you saw an ancient fully formed
shareNo, we did not know what the ancients looked like. Orlin was an ascended being, but it was never stated that he was an ancient. Even after his return in season 9, they never said that he was an ancient. They have however stated that Ancients are not the only ascended beings.
shareWhat about "Frozen"?
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Stargate Infinity came out BEFORE we knew what the ancients were.Um, what? We first heard about the Ancients along with the Asgard, the Furlings, and the Nox in "The Torment of Tantalus" which was the 11th episode, back in 1997, followed shortly after with "The Fifth Race" in 1999. "Maternal Instinct" from 2000 introduced Oma; and "Ascension" was also before Infinity, not to mention "Meridian" where Daniel ascends. If you meant before we knew what they looked like, that they were evolved humans, that doesn't work either because even "Frozen", where we met a real, live ancient came before Infinity.
In addition, Infinity is not considered canon.That's the proper explanation. Besides, even the movie isn't canon since it didn't have any Jaffa or even Goa'uld.
Of course Ancients were mentioned, and perhaps we saw a few... but at no point before Infinity was it clear that only Humans became Ancients... and besides all that... I don't think they actually meant "THE" ancients... This was another cartoon designed to sell toys (and failed miserably), not satisfy the fandom of Stargate... this was a show for kids, who probably never even seen, or heard of, Stargate...
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umm how was the movie not cannon?
shareumm how was the movie not cannon?Because the show was only loosely based on the movie. The movie did not have Goa'uld, Jaffa, nor any of the other aliens (Ancients included) that were in the show. In fact, there were not even any planets besides Abydos in the movie.
Its called a retcon. The only places where the movie is retconned is the appearance of Ra and Abydos being on the other side of the universe. O'Neill mentions in the very first episode of SG-1 that there were no Jaffa on Abydos. The 'Jaffa' Ra used were humans.
shareOne error everyone has failed to mention is the way the show was made. HELLO its a cartoon! The other shows aren't cartoons and where was this shown SyFy didn't show it and all SG shows are on SyFy. how i know this? I have been all around the Stargate pages on SyFy. When i have a show i like i go to the website and i look it up. And if you paid close attention Ra was a goa'uld his eyes glowed like the other system lords did. So what the other planets wherent in the movie the movie ROCKED you have to be blind to not like it and the effects of when the movie was made were great.
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Sorry for my bad grammar my laptop sucks, so sometimes no matter how hard I hit the key(s) it doesn't work. And I wasn't talking about SG1. I was talking about Infinity. I knew that about SG1 my dad and I used to watch it when the new episodes aired before it was cancelled.
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"Besides, even the movie isn't canon since it didn't have any Jaffa or even Goa'uld. "
Ummm . . . huh?
What’s the confusion? The movie only had Ra who was an alien; there was no mention of Jaffa, Goa’uld, or even a gate-system (there was only Abydos).
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Um, Ra is a Goauld. I haven´t seen the movie in a while, but I´m pretty darn sure they mention Goaulds in the movie. That´s why Daniel and Jack aren´t too terribly shocked when they see the Goauld. Feel free to correct me if I´m wrong, but I´m pretty darn sure that the movie mentions Goauld. Plus, if we´re going off the assumption that the movie isn´t canon because it doesn´t mention the first big bad guys, then it also shouldn´t be canon because it doesn´t mention the Asgard, the Ancients, the Replicators, etc.
shareThe movie had the assumption that they possessed their host (Like the exorcist), as such, when Ra was about to explode at the end, you see, what to Roland Emmerich, was his true form. In the show, that was changed slightly to be a symbiotic parasite instead of a possession.
As far as the gate network, the VERY FIRST few episodes of SG-1 serve to transition from movie fact to TV fact. When we first meet Daniel again, he states to Carter that they THOUGHT the gate only went to Abydos, but Daniel found a temple with addresses to other planets.
Ra did have Jaffa, we just didn't see the worm-bellies. As far as Jaffa, Ra's ship was large enough to hold THOUSANDS of warriors, yet you only saw him and 5 others? It can be assumed, by watching other high level system lords like Baal, that Lower Goa'uld served the uppers as Jaffa commanders, and as such had no incubation pouches in their abdomens. It can be assumed that out of the thousands of guards Ra had on his ship, you only got to see the commanders.
The movie made it clear that aliens had been to Earth in the past and taken slaves, so what made them Jaffa in the movie as opposed to say, just human slaves?
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There are other, unexplained differences. For example, in the movie, Abidos was in the Kaliem Galaxy at "the other side of the known universe", whereas in the series it's of course in the Milky Way, and relatively close to earth. In the movie, the Stargate facility had been located in "Creek Mountain", while the series has it in Cheyenne Mountain.
Also some names were changed. In the movie, Jack's son was "Tyler", but in the series it's Charlie. And O'Neill the movie was just spelled "O'Neil" (RDA even made a jab at this in the series, saying there was "another O'Niel" in the Air Force with just one L that had "no sense of humor")
Actually the movie did have a goa`uld, they just never showed it, but multiple times mentioned a tribal being taken over by a parasite creature.
AND they did have Jaffa, if you remember they were the ones who flew those gliders and whore the big helmets. Just because they didnt use the term left and right didnt mean they had EVERY asset used.
THE movie was canon, it simply changed the characters with the series.
If you remember they even said the movie was basically a pilot for the series.
It is confirmed in the pilot of SG-1 that there were no Jaffa on Abydos. And I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere that Ra had used an Asgard as a host before the human. As for the location of Abydos, that could be explained as a retcon or a simple mistake on behalf of the computers, etc.
shareI tolerates this show, but not because I liked it.
I gave it a chance, but it turned out to be other Kid's cartoons, whith the cheesy morale at the end.
And the fact that there was another new enemy, which I hated. And earth had 2 stargates, not including the Russian/Antarctic gate. (One in Mexico)
No. Just no. It was a mistake.
When Infinity started, we'd heard of the Ancients on SG-1, as well as ascended beings - but we had NOT yet been told that they were the same.
Of course, that still makes Infinity incredibly stupid. How could its writers not realize that SG-1 would surely introduce the Ancients sooner or later?
They tried to get around it by having the "worm creature" SUSPECTED of being an Ancient, rather than saying they knew it for sure... Which of course doesn't work when IT'S SET DECADES AFTER SG-1, by which time everyone involved in the SGC would certainly know what an Ancient is.
Just plain stupid writing, that is all.
The movie Star Gate DID in FACT have Gou'alds (Ra) even if he didn't look like the rest of them. He was the oldest of them and we don't know what kind of alien that he possessed that was able to cameleon itself.
Even in the Expanded Universe of SG1 and Atlantis we are introduced to the first jaffa, the Unas.
Then we have the Horus or Hero-ur Guards or did you fast foward through those parts?
This series all together is an obvious error
I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way.
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i dont know if anyone has noticed this