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Disney's Davy Crockett back in the 50's was the real movie of the Alamo


More realistic, better battle scenes, better acting, better sets, better everything.

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I'm just gonna pretend this a joke.

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Hahaha

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I'm a fan of Fess's portrayal as well

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Disney's Davy Crockett was a lot of fun. I loved it as a kid (and I must admit, even as an adult). I even liked the other Disney, Davy Crockett movie entitled, "Davy Crockett and the River Pirates" where he met Mike Fink, King of the River.

But, this version of the Alamo was more historically accurate, and included the decisive Battle of San Jacinto, the "revenge," which was the downfall of Santa Anna, and the beginning of the Texas Republic. Of course, west Texas remained disputed, and that would be settled by the Mexican War.

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Brave,highly intelligent, European men settled this country.This 2004 film is an apologist effort that poisons the minds of our youth.
You are correct.

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It might have been more entertaining, but it was not more realistic. Disney's Crockett was a product of its time, when the post WWII US was the most powerful nation on earth, and enjoying an economic boom. Disney's Davy Crockett series, along with most of the western genre back then fulfilled exactly the same role for the US that Virgil's Aeneid had for Augustus' newly founded Roman Empire: the creation of a national epic that told an inspiring story of heroism and triumph over adversity, and reinforced the idea that a nation that had such heroes to look up to had a great destiny.

This movie tells a more realistic story of the people behind those legends. Crockett is a good example. The coonskin cap-wearing, buckskin-clad frontiersman was a character. The real Crockett, who went by David, not Davy, was a different man, and one who struggled to live up to the legend -- but who did, in the end. You see it when he talks to Jim Bowie during one scene, and says his own inclination is to slip quietly over the wall and skedaddle, but he knows doing so would destroy his name and reputation, so he stays. Bowie, who understands all too well that Crockett, while an accomplished woodsman and hunter (he teases him a bit about the tall tales), hadn't had to face armed men bent on killing him, and Bowie, who has killed men in life or death fights, tells him this will be different than hunting bears, and asks him if he understands.

I think this was a realistic take on Crockett: a man who genuinely accomplished noteworthy feats, and became famous for it, and who then sometimes had a hard time living up to his reputation. Crockett does though, and dies bravely, despite his all too human fears.

There's nothing about this more realistic portrayal that diminishes Crockett's heroism. Bravery isn't being fearless, it's doing what you have to despite your fear.

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Crockett never owned slaves, and he actually spoke out on Indian rights while in Congress. That makes him a better role model of than Travis or Bowie.

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I don't disagree on those points. I'm merely pointing out that Bowie, whatever else you might say about him, was legitimately a tough son of a bitch who had killed men with that knife of his, in fights in which he was gravely wounded. As far as legends and reputations go, he was closer to actually being what he was reputed to be than Crockett was. I'm merely pointing out the I like the portrayal of Crockett as every bit as human as the rest of us, and every bit as subject to fear, but nevertheless able to conquer his fear and keep his heroic name intact.

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I agree, Darren.

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