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That is the worst ending I have ever seen to any show/movie/etc


No conclusion, no resolution ... nothing. I'm sure you get used to after a while and can maybe even beguile yourself into thinking it was a good ending but.. that wasn't even an ending!! I've seen unfinished shows end a season on a cliff-hanger, but this was another level entirely.

You'd feel cocky too if you were full of myself.

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I felt the same way after just finishing it recently, but from what i've heard they just never got a chance to finish the series so it didn't really end on its own terms. I've seen shows that never finished before and it was kind of annoying but if its a good show for the most part, I don't feel like I wasted my time. If you've ever watched Deadwood you'll know what I mean.

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Not enough popularity, but as far as covering the books it was only a 1/3 of the way done.

Psst, look behind you

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I LOVE the ending. I think it's completely brilliant. It outright stunned me when I first came to this board a few years ago to see that almost everyone disagrees with me on that, but I'm slowly getting used to the idea.


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Well, you're a delusional person because it was ended prematurely due to a lack of funding. They pretty much just cut it off because there was no money left. The manga goes on so far past this point in the story. Berserk is one of my favorite anime but unfortunately can't be listed that high because it isn't complete.

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Hi, not everyone who has a different opinion from yours is delusional. The decision to end it there, regardless of funding, was still a decision that they made.


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That is like saying getting shot in the head was your decision because it happened, which is nonsensical.

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I think you misread my post. I didn't say that being underfunded was their decision. I said the way they chose to react to it was their decision, which it is. Can you find somewhere else to misplace your outrage?


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"The decision to end it there, regardless of funding, was still a decision that they made." - Why would they make the decision to end the show? The choice was made for them, you delusional person. The same way getting shot in the head wasn't your decision. What other reaction do they have when their funding is pulled? What other reaction do you have when getting shot in the head besides dying? Outrage? Are you pretending to be psychic now along with making outlandish statements? Seriously, get a brain.

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I can't believe how dumb you are. Okay visualize yourself as the creator of the show. This might help you to understand the scenario. You're sitting behind a desk and writing a script or drawing some sketches when your phone rings. (Not your phone in real life, the one in this imagined scenario.) Now imagine your boss tells you on the phone that you only have enough money to make (X) many more episodes. I'm using X to represent an unknown number there. It could be a number like 1, or 3, which I'm explaining because as you have demonstrated in the past you are very stupid. You, as the creator of the show, did not decide this number, it was given to you. However, you, as the creator of the show, are able to decide how to fill that remaining number of episodes. So you make the choice to include certain scenes, or exclude certain other ones.

Please let me know if you are still confused. And please do not repeat your irrelevant analogy about being shot in the head a third time.


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Are you really trying to tell me what a variable is, you delusional person? Oh I see, you think you're more intelligent than you actually are, huh? Look at your delusional attempts to explain your absurd statement. The creators were following the manga, you delusional person. The funding was pulled and they had no choice but to end it where they did because that was the end of the first story arc. You have no idea what you're talking about, do you? My analogy was perfect, because they had no choice in where the story ended. Funding was pulled, the only option is to not include the Skull Knight in the last episode and end the anime at the first story arc. Seriously, get a brain.

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You know what a good argument strategy is, is just repeating yourself over and over. Actually, I can see that you did already know that.

How did all of this start, anyway? Why are we insulting each other? It's because I made a post about how I liked something, and then you saw it, and you said "How dare he like something that I don't like?? I'll show him!!!" Then you beat your chest like King Kong, who is also dumb, and starting flaming me for (admit it) absolutely no reason. Look, mac, every single thing you dislike—every anime, every song, every food, every person—there are people out there who like it. Are you going to spend your whole life flaming these people like you did to me, or are you going to try maturing out of this caveman mentality?


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What are you talking about? Can you really not recall a discussion that is logged? You made an absurd statement, got called on it, and then threw a tantrum. "starting flaming", awful grammar. You know what isn't a good strategy? Derailing the discussion so you can try and explain what an opinion is when the topic was your absurd statement. They had no choice but to end the show where they did, understand? I'll repeat it as many times as necessary until you can suppress your fragile ego and walk away knowing you're wrong, you delusional person.

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You're right, the discussion is logged. Let's look back at it and see what we see.

1. The OP says he dislikes the ending. Okay.

2. I posted, "I love the ending." You are correct that this is a statement, but I cannot see that this is an absurd statement. It is my opinion and a valid one. I am allowed to love the ending. You are allowed to call me out on that, sure, but it makes you sort of a jerk, doesn't it?

Before we move on to #3, I also want to point out the way in which I expressed a different opinion from the previous posters, yet I did so in such a way that didn't involve aggression or condescension. I just point this out so that you realize it's possible. Perhaps one day you will learn to utilize this valuable skill yourself.

3. You reply to me calling me delusional. This is where the aggression in the thread starts, with you. You are the only throwing a "tantrum" if anybody is. You're saying I have a fragile ego -- I was not the one who got bent out of shape when somebody disagreed with me. I got angry at you, yes, but that was in retaliation to your anger. Things were going peacefully and respectfully until you showed up.

And looking back at my original post, did it show delusions? Me saying I love the ending? This seems to be the crux of your whole argument, given how many times you've said it, and I'll admit I'm not a professional psychologist, but I'm going to stick with my original stance that no it is not delusional to like something. Even if that thing is underfunded.

Pointing out someone's grammatical mistakes is a poor argumentative strategy, as it's likely irrelevant to the actual ideas being discussed, so I don't recommend you continue doing that. And it's even more true than usual here since you've done it incorrectly. "Started flaming" is in fact proper grammar. Consider:

- John is flaming Mary on the internet.
- Yesterday, Mary was flaming John.
- John started flaming Mary at 8:00PM.

I was being facetious when I pretended you wouldn't know what a variable was... but I didn't think you were unable to conjugate verbs. Jesus.

If you're trying to make me understand that the creators of the show had no creative input, well, why don't I just go ahead and agree with you so you will leave me alone already. P.S. Please leave me alone already.


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So you figure out the conversation is logged and your brilliant idea is to write it back to me, you delusional person? Of course it is an absurd statement because they were forced to end the show despite it only being the first story arc in the manga. They left out one of the most important characters because they were forced to end the show. You loving that ending is absurd when the only knock on the show is the ending. Without aggression or condescension? Was that before or after you threw a tantrum and started name calling? Exactly, you're delusional. Another brilliant statement, I say you're throwing a tantrum and you turn around and tell me I'm throwing a tantrum. Newsflash, you're not psychic, you have no idea what my emotional or mental state is, you delusional person. I am perfectly calm, and I am never angry. Perhaps you don't understand how psychology works? So you admit to being angry, right you delusional person? Exactly, you were throwing a tantrum out of anger. You keep trying to focus the discussion on whether or not you love the ending when the majority of the conversation revolved around saying "they had a choice", which they didn't, you delusional person. Of course you're not a professional psychologist, you lack basic knowledge in psychology, neurology, and human behavior. Pointing out your piss poor grammar isn't an argumentative strategy. Try looking up what the definition of argumentative is, you delusional person. You wrote "starting flaming", you delusional person. Do you understand what quotations are, you delusional person? I wasn't correcting your grammar, you delusional person. I was quoting your piss poor grammar, you delusional person. You are absolutely brain dead. Clearly I can conjugate verbs, you delusional person. Oh look you just tried to twist your words one more time, "creative input", first time you said that, did you already forget this conversation is logged, you delusional person? Now you're whining about being left alone? Next time just block me so I don't have to tear your brain dead statements to shreds.

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Hi I have something that may be useful to you in the future, as I don't think you've looked at this before.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/delusional?s=t

I think we're done here, unless you'd like to repeat yourself a few more times.


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Haha well that was an entertaining read. Have to say I've got to agree with Vandwedge on all accounts bar one, I'm not a big fan of the ending, but each to there own I guess (see how you can disagree without being a dick).

Oh and if anyone was wondering I think I counted the phrase "delusional person" was used by metusbatmanv 16 times haha.

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lol thanks. Uhhhh that said, I am more than a little embarassed when I read through the above and would be PERFECTLY FINE if IMDb deleted all of it. I had a cold that weekend and wasn't in a good mood.


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I can only hope your post doesn't "reactivate" metusbatman, as he is a bit of a madman. A day or two after the above thread died down, he went as far as to Google my screenname and flame me on other websites' message boards. I could do without that happening again.

PS METUSBAT, IF YOU'RE READING THIS: please don't add any more replies. The conversation really is over. Please, please, please don't reply.


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Haha it's easy to get wound up when somebody starts using insults. It seems to be a common thing on the internet (definitely on IMDB) where people jump straight to aggression. But as far as retaliations go you kept a relativity cool head. I mean we can all say things like "you should just walk away from it", but then you feel like you've let them win. Its a lose, lose scenario really.

Anyway back on topic I get what you mean, with the scope of control they had over how it ended its not too bad, shame we never get the full story. I think its the fact that it adds so many new plot points right at the end that are left open, I guess we always have the manga and I intend to get round to it at some point.

Anyway I hope I too don't incur his wroth haha.

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Nah see that's what I think is brilliant about it! With the post-credits sequence in the last episode, and with the entire first episode being a flash forward, we know exactly what's going to happen next. People complain like "well we never see how Guts escapes from there, since there's no Skull Knight character," but... c'mon. It's Guts. I have faith he can handle it.



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How he escapes or the lack of the Skull Knight doesn't bother me, I haven't as of yet read the manga, so even though I'm aware he should be in it i don't feel his loss from the story.

I think its the 1st episode that rubs salt into the wound almost, the world seems so interesting, I want to see more of it. Its like the whole series is built up to show you how much of a badass guts is and how much he is going to be this complete badass in this apocalypse, but then we never get to see any more of it.

I suppose that means i'm more disappointed that it ended, rather than how it ended.

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It was a pretty vague ending, though if you are seeking more closure I highly recommend you watch ACT III of the Berserk Movie trilogy. You find out how Guts and Caska survive.

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even if it isnt your thing and havnt done it before read the manga the anime is just a drop in the bucket of the story

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Honestly I loved the ending. You know Guts survives anyways since episode 1 shows him alive in the future. The ending just has so much pain and misery going on for it. It was a perfect way to end an anime that was never going to have another season.
The first movies digital effects really waters down the quality making it look like some videogame. Haven't watched the other 2 yet

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It's the ending of the anime (and a bad one at that) but the manga continues quite a bit.

Imdb is not a pit. Imdb is a ladder.

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I had to rewatch the first episode after seeing the last. Would've been left with a horrible taste in my mouth if I hadn't.

Thit and thpin!

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