Not all nuns are bad - The Magdalene Sisters (2003) Discussion

[–] pjglynndoora 9 years ago

Anyone agree?

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I have a really tough time with this because:

- every nun I have met has been a kind, caring, devout, dedicated woman, and
- I stand firm that every woman should make her own choices

but:

- no matter how nice a nun is, she is still spreading miseducation in a tax-exempt institution, and
- she is still knowingly subjugating herself to the authority and decisions of men, regardless of whether those men have earned their superior positions or not.

Catholic nuns are also an historical cause of some of the economic issues we face in the US and other catholic countries today. Schools, hospitals, social services, and other community institutions were able to be run cheaply on the backs of under- or un-paid nun labor. As that labor dried up in the mid-20th century, the quality of services declined, as funding was not made available to replace the skills and dedication of nuns. If they simply had never been there, communities and cities would have had to have secured proper funding from the start, slowing growth to a realistic pace and preventing people from building societies on (essentially) credit.

So while I really want to have the backs of women who choose to be nuns and who are also good people, I just really really want to shake them and ask WTAH?!?

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[–] pjglynndoora 9 years ago

Or am I just in denial?

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[–] ed-pilling 8 years ago

I went to parochial school and had nun teachers. One was really nice. One was just OK. Two could go either way and really didn’t make a difference. Two if they were not nuns could have been institutionalized and def out of touch with life. Two were sadistic and enjoy torturing children with their razor tongues. They are losing so many to death and their ranks are not being added I calculated that by 2025 they will be just a faded memory.

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[–] polexia 8 years ago

My mom was a nun for ten years and I think she's quite nice. I knew a couple of nice nuns in Catholic school but I also met a few of the most horrible nuns ever.

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[–] butaneggbert 8 years ago

Product of the Catholic school system here, where the nuns ranged from sweet and balanced to sick, malicious, and given to violence.

It was notable that only the latter held positions of power.

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Nothing to see here, move along.

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[–] hodie1 8 years ago

I was at an AA meeting and a nun who spoke there apologized to people who had been hurt by nuns. Apparently alcohol abuse is not unknown. I went to Catholic school for 12 years.My HS nuns hated teenage girls. There were a few very nice nuns, but the rest can burn in hell for all I care.

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[–] michael_mulligan 8 years ago

In the 1970s I went to a Catholic primary school where a lot of the teachers were nuns, most of whom where vile creatures not worthy of respect by their charges. One particular nun had me on her sh!tlist and I spent a year getting hit, shouted at and generally humiliated in front of my peers, my memories and hatred of this nun is as strong today and I hope karma has come her way.

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[–] fiatlux-1 8 years ago

No, not all nuns are bad. Why should they be? They're only humans, just like us.
Some are evil, some kind.

I find it disturbing though that so many so-called people of God are truly sadistic.
To use your power/position of trust to do vile things is disgusting enough, but the abusive ones that seem to really feel they are still holy, are the most terrifying of all.

I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus.
Didn't he discover America?
Penfold, shush.

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[–] bastasch8647 8 years ago

Depends on the nun/priest...lawyer/doctor, etc., etc.

However: I attended Catholic school from 1956 thru 1968 and did meet a few mean, grouchy, and disturbed nuns. A lot of them were on power trips, subject only to the occasional classroom drop-in of priests. Short-tempered; quick to judge; superstitious - one nun sprinkled holy water on a girl's desk to "drive out the demons". Corporal punishment was not unusual Nut cases and neurotics were obviously attracted to the convent. No doubt most of them felt that they had a genuine vocation or "Calling", but of course, that life-decision does not cure mental illness and personality disorders - in fact, it can exacerbate such conditions.

Also, many years later, I found that right there along with priestly sex abuse, some of the nuns in my grade school had practiced the same abberancies. Luckily, my younger brother and myself escaped that victimization. "Back then", clergy of both genders were habitually and irrationally valorized and placed upon sacred pedestals, and as is now public knowledge, protected by bishops and other superiors. And, of course, nasty accusations about nuns and priests would first be met by extreme skepticism - "Catholic clergy just wouldn't act like that!"... to the everlasting shame of the Church and the perpetual sadness of the victims.

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[–] ed-pilling 8 years ago

I have been researching and writing about my tenure in parochial school. I have been interviewing many people on both sides. What I have found so far is many nuns are lesbians. They grew up in very strict catholic homes and could not accept what they are. If they pray and do their duties they have a bed and food for life. As in the religion it is really about control. This is obvious as in they do the opposite of what is in the bible.

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[–] nekogillespie 8 years ago

#NotAllNuns

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