In the episode Evergreen where Amber Tamblyn from "Joan of Arcadia" stars as a wayward youth who moves into this new neighborhood called Evergreen where they turn bad kids into fertilzer, whith her parents and her sister, what happens at the end? I am guessing her sister turned on her, but I missed that part. Can someone please tell me what happens.
I just watched that episode, and yes, Jules (her sister)betrayed her. Jenna (Amber Tamblyn) was running away from the authorities and told her sister to meet her at a park, BUT asked her to tell everybody else that she was hidden somewhere else, but at the end, Jules told everybody the truth and that's how they caught her...
Yeah, thanks. I was just wondering how they caught her. That episode did not seem like the twilight zone to me. It seemed more like an episode of Tales from the Darkside.
I think this was one of my favorite episodes. Chantal Conlin (the sister and my favorite actress) was pretty good with her small role and Amber Tamblyn did great. It wasn't very TZ-ish but it could actually relate to some things. I could see the government creating a place like this.
I totally agree. I can't watch that episode anymore because Amber Tamblyn gives such a great performance (particularly at the end) and her emotions were just way too real for me.
Proof (at least to me) that she's a really, really good actress.
"Seems more like an episode from "Tales from the Crypt". Anyone else agree?"
Must've missed this comment before. But: NO. Other than puns that could be made ("What a dirty girl" heheheheheehee!!), there's nothing TFTC about it. No vampires/werewolves/zombies, love triangles, serial killers, etc. Plus it would've ended with dirt ghouls rising from the grave the take revenge on Brooks, Julie, and everyone else. The Zone is where it belongs.
I'm going to shove coal so far up your stocking you'll be coughing up diamonds!
This episode reminded me of The Stepford Children. Anybody see that tv movie starring Barbara Eden? In Stepford the kids get cloned (they kill the real ones) to make them perfect little citizens.
Okay, seriously. I know a lot of people like this episode for some reason. Having watched it and rewatched it, I cannot see why. This might in fact be my least favorite episode of the reincarnation...which, considering how much I generally don't like the reincarnation, is saying something. So someone out there who is reading this, please, explain it to me. Why do you like this episode so much?
Really? Out of all of the reincarnated episodes this one was actually one of the better episodes. I can totally see why you don't like the episode though. Like I originally said, this episode was more like an episode Tales From the Dark Side. I just thought it was interesting to see how the girl turned on her sister and then they turn all the bad kids to fertilizer. It was funny, because I was watching this episode with my nephew who was 10 at the time and he was scared shi+less for weeks. This episode was pretty twisted. I'm an ol' school Twilight Zone fan and the reason why is because a good 90% of the ol school TZ taught lessons and Evergreen taught no lesson unless the lesson was supposed to be "Be good kids or you will get turned into fertilizer." Long live Rod Serling!
Okay, so it's got a semi-neat concept behind it. I can see where you're coming from, and we can agree to disagree. The problem with this episode, as far as I'm concerned, is that I can honestly say I saw it coming. I saw the "surprise" resolution from the very beginning of the episode, even before Jenna got drugged with the lemonade. I spent the rest of the running time praying to God that this episode had something else up its sleeve, and it pissed me off royally when it didn't. So, that's probably my main gripe right there. Perhaps it's not a fair one; since I've seen so many of these things, I'm more sensitive to the setups and telegraphed plot points than I imagine the average viewer is. But there you are.
The other thing that really peeves me off about this episode, and the one I'm far less likely to forgive, is that there is no sense in which this could actually happen. Okay, I give you this: it's a weird critique coming from someone who loves stories with vampires and witches and monsters, saying "This just couldn't happen in the real world." But it's all about establishing what's possible in the world of the story. If a story tells me, right off the bat, "Supernatural stuff can happen here," then I'll be more than willing to go along for the ride--provided they keep playing me fair.
Evergreen sets itself up in the real world, and always plays by those rules. There's nothing otherworldly here. The writer wants you to believe that the Winslows could be a real family, and Evergreen a real gated community. So it's no wonder that I started thinking, about five minutes from the end, that all it would take to bring this place crashing down was one set of grief-stricken parents who went to the police with a copy of the contract. I find it hard to believe that someone wouldn't have already done that at some point by the time the story took place. Does anyone seriously think that a contract like that would be enforceable in court? "You're moving in and giving us the right to correct the behavior of your kid by any means necessary, up to and including turning him/her into mulch. Oh, and if you change your mind and renege on the deal, we get to keep everything of yours." Yeah, I'm sure lots of judges out there would let THAT contract stand.
Oh, yeah... we both can agree that the concept is totally unrealistic and it definately went against the grain of most TZ episodes. The fact that the parents were fine with there kids turning into fertilizer is what is so sick about the episode and again... it taught no lesson! it was completely pointless. Still, I did find it mildly entertaining and just to see the way my nephew was scared was priceless.
Yeah, but I know but most of the old ones taught a lesson. Serling even acknowledged in the closing monologue "No lesson here". Evergreen seemed like it was trying to teach a lesson but it fell flat.
There was a lesson but it's from the perspective of the parents. Simply put, be careful what you wish for. They wanted to regain control of the family, and they achieved it, but at a huge cost.
I'm going to shove coal so far up your stocking you'll be coughing up diamonds!
Wow, I posted this blog in 2004 and it is STILL active... AMAZING!!
Anyway, I'm sorry, Eraser47, but I'm not buying that. The parents seemed to be more than willing to have their daughter turned to fertilizer and the girls sister snitched her out. And they smiled at their daughter at the end of the episode. No lesson. Just twisted.
I hate this episode. I think the ending is all wrong in so many ways. It sends the message that parents and authority are ALWAYS right. After all, the parents had been good kids and they *NEVER* rebelled against their parents. (Of course, they did, just in a way that was different from how their kids rebel, and the parents either have short memories or are in total denial.) Rod Serling sympathized with underdogs, misfits, outcasts and outsiders. This TZ did not. The ONLY justification for what happens to the kids here would have been a follow-up along the lines of "Death's-Head Revisited," where the ghosts of the MURDERED children come back to haunt the perverts responsible.
"May the Force be with you." "I can do anything. Is America."
Too right. That would have been pretty interesting, the ghosts of the murdered kids causing hell for the parents, making the parents look like they're acting up and then they end up in Arcadia. If they had filmed Evergreen part 2 back-to-back with the original episode, you would have seen a 7 year old sitting in the driver's seat of the Arcadia van, waiting for the signal to put the hammer down...
I wish I had been an extra in any of Natalie Gregory's work.
I thought the "good" sister was really an evil little thing, leading her own sister to the slaughter... Also, the episode is short, but i get the impression that Logan and Jenna were not really "bad" kids at heart just somewhat rebellious.. this episode is very "Hitler" like whoever doesnt conform, no questions asked... snuffed out... pretty creepy stuff...
Jenna (Amber Tamblyn) says something to the gate guard when they first arrive, "I've got a sunflower in my *bleep* if you are interested." What did she have a sunflower in?! I thought this was a PG show, lol. It was beeped, I just can't figure out what she said.