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Be Careful.

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Obviously :) You cant mix Philosophy and Science.

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Very heavy-handed, with a terribly shallow understanding of philosophy AND science.

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By the way, I've noticed that this kind of a movie is a new tactic on the part of anti-intellectual Christian fundamentalists. They claim the movie is about an attempt to understand life through science, and then by the end use a sloppy concept of science to show that science itself has no answers, and can't stand up to good old Christian fundamentalism.

True Christians aren't threatened by concepts like quantum physics, evolution, or a universe billions of years old. True Christians know God can exist side by side with these concepts.

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I'm a Christian and I embrace those concepts.

But it is very true that the scientific method is flawed. It works perfectly well for separate, dualistic realities that concern themselves with the latter part of subject-object, mind-matter, form-substance relationships. But it is much too objective and cannot account for things that matter within the human psyche. The subjective realm is just as important as the objective one. And science makes the mistake of thinking that one is greater than the other. It tries to make an object out of everything, and in effect, loses perspective. Without subjectivity, we have no science. This is where philosophy comes in, being a more generalized realm of knowledge than science. Science takes several objective philosophical principles and combines them to create the scientific method. But the scientific method likes to be alone, by itself, away from the illogical detractions of the human mind. It doesn't understand that it is the human mind that created it, sustains it, and applies it. Nor can it understand itself. Using the scientific method on the scientific method is impossible unless you step out into the realm of philosophy, which is the starting point of reconnecting subject and object back together into one entity. Science is not the end-all be-all of everything. It is a human tool created out of human ideas that humans tried to separate from themselves.

With the things that it can't answer, since it is an application of certain philosophical ideas stemming from Plato and especially Aristotle, people look for something that might just provide answers for all the other questions that science cannot possibly answer in the state that it's in now (thanks to our Greek friends). Religion therefore proposes to be what science is to objective thought: the philosophical application of certain principles to derive a subjective way of life.

It's no wonder why science and religion hate each other so much. They're bother and sister!

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In my experience science is far more open-minded than religions are about not having all the answers. In fact, that very scientific open-mindedness about the continuing quest for understanding is often manipulated by fundamentalists in their attempts to discredit science. Witness the continuing attacks on evolution.

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Good post!^
If only more could be this open minded.

I've upped my standards............Up yours

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