Question, re: the crying.


Would one of the pseudo-intellectuals who seem to take great pleasure in both defending this trash and personally attacking people who hate this film care to enlighten me on the following?

What is the symbolism ('cause that's all it is, isn't it?) of people crying when they climax (including the hillbilly rapist)?

That is all.

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I don't think I qualify as the type of person you invite (challenge?) to reply in your opening gambit although I liked this film a lot, quite a lot.

I don't have an immediate answer regarding the crying but elsewhere I described the sex in the film as violent with orgasms that looked like paroxysms of pain. I think there's a lot that could be inferred from that such as the savagery of sexuality/mating and the primitive nature of humans. I've seen one other Bruno Dumont film (Hors Satan) and sex was a none too happy matter in that film either. I think he seems concerned as a director with spirituality and if sex is a spiritual union then he depicts humans bereft of soul.

Sorry it's not more definitive although I don't think his films are meant to be definitive.

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It's part of Bruno Dumont's post-Freudian existentialist cinematic worldview. He's only concerned with sex being a primordial, animal act. Which, on his terms, is the only way one can objectively see it. Dumont doesn't necessarily view copulating as a psychologically or emotionally 'human' act (or at least how were 'supposed' to view sex in terms of human relationships). He's never been concerned with psychology, and his recent "Camille Claudel 1915" is the only one of his films where behavior and actions have emotional clarity.

In "29 Palms" the sound of their climax is more akin to two hyenas shrieking painfully rather than two lovers enjoying themselves. In another Dumont film "Flanders", the young lovers say nothing, lay-down clothed, and screw in such uncaring nonchalance that its no different than if they decided to quietly take a piss together.

























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It symbolizes bad acting of orgasm.

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Do you think the reason the perpetrator at the end was crying was that he actually felt bad about doing something so terrible and hurtful to another human being or was it because he was somehow worried that he will later get caught and punished for it?

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