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I can't believe that most of the posters on this board saw the same movie I did. This movie celebrates a horrible person. Given the knowledge that she is certain to die in a matter of months she: denies the people who love her the chance to say their goodbyes; betrays a husband who is nothing but loving, faithful, steadfast and a good father; starts a new love affair with an unsuspecting beau, all the while knowing that she won't be around to see it through. The tape she leaves for her new boyfriend is far more loving than the short kiss-off she leaves for her own husband, who, after all, invested as much of his life in her as she invested in him. It is clear she has no regard for the people she presumably loves. One reviewer on the IMDB newsgroups board described the Ann character as "selfless and brave." Actually she was the opposite of that -- selfish and self-absorbed to the point of narcisism and a coward who seems unwilling to die without causing even greater heartache than necessary for her so-called loved ones.

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I agree with you. I just watched this movie and thought that Ann was definately not a good person. It's sad that people here are all enthralled with her 'love life'. And also the fact that she'd rather be running around with Lee than spending time with her own children appalled me.

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What she did to her children is no different than if she had packed up one day, walked out without a word and never come back. It was inexcusable and did indeed negate everything she did with them or for them up to that point.
She repaid her loyal, loving, attentive and faithful husband by casually picking up a guy in a laundromat and sleeping with him. Then she spent precious time supposedly falling in love with the new boyfriend -- time she could have devoted to her husband and family. That does indeed negate her entire relationship with her husband up to that point.
She starts a love affair with the new guy (for whom I have no sympathy) knowing that she won't be around to take responsbility for it or to suffer any consequences.
Was this behavior her business alone and no one else's? It might be except that people don't live -- or die -- in a vaccuum. Everything a person does affects his or her loved ones. Everything she did in her final days, every single relationship she had, was a lie. Yes, she was a horrible person.

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What if the gender roles were flip-flopped and it was the husband who went out and started screwing around on his faithul wife and otherwise doing all the same things as the Ann character did in the same circumstance? Most viewers would not think he was sweet and romantic and heroic, they would think he was an unforgivable jerk and they'd be right.

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Clearly that sort of behaviour should be viewed as abhorent if the people would view the same behaviour from a male that way.

However, very, very few people are not sexist. I am happily one of them. For the majority, it is drilled into their brains from an early age that all varieties of traits and behaviours are specific or normal for one gender and not another. My personal viewpoint is that unless it specifically has something to do with what's in our pants, then gender is quite meaningless.

The sheer number of sexist lines that are thrown around by men and women alike is astounding, yet these very sexist people think they are not so. The sheer level of ignorance is rather sad.

In elementary school while the other kids were running around yelling about "girl/boy germs" and lines like "you can't hit a girl", I just looked at them like they were bizarre creatures. I have always had friends of both genders, and treat them identically.

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I think it is very ignoratant for one to create opinions about situations one knows nothing about. as an individual working with cancer patients, i have found that a diagnosis is a very personal experience. the way people cope with day to day stressors is the way one will most likely cope with a cancer diagnosis. in hte beginning of this movie, Ann does not ask or complain about much. she treats her diagnosis the way she would treat any other crisis. her children were young enough that if she had sought treatment, it would be all her children would remember of her. i thought this movie was inspiring. she had given so much of her self, caring for her mother, children, husband and when she needed to take something back, she did it privatly. i dont condone her cheating on her husband, but i think in her frame of mind, she was certainly entitled to it. it seemed that most of hte time spent with this man was when her family was working/at school or sleeping.

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"What she did to her children is no different than if she had packed up one day, walked out without a word and never come back. It was inexcusable and did indeed negate everything she did with them or for them up to that point. "

With that sentence you lost all the credit I could have given to you.
I am just wondering... who the heck are you all to judge Ann's options before DYING? how many times have you died from a CANCER? how many times have you died being only 23??
I am just shocked of you all speaking so easily about other people's decisions. I am also wondering of this has anything to do with where you are from.

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"She was dying. She was selfish. This makes her a "horrible person"?
It negates everything else?"

Yes.

And 23 year olds don't get uteran cancer. They just don't. It affects post menopausal women over the age of 55. Plus it has an 80% cure rate.

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And 23 year olds don't get uteran cancer. They just don't. It affects post menopausal women over the age of 55. Plus it has an 80% cure rate.


About 10% of patients who get Uterine cancer are less than 40 years old. So while it's extremely rare for a woman her age to get it, it's not impossible. And you said 75% cure rate on another thread.


When the hurly-burly's done. When the battle's lost and won.

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it's not even extremely rare - 10% is one in ten. I had precancerous cells in my uterus and i was only 20 at the time. Had they not been removed I most assuredly would have had cancer by now. Furthermore, a cure rate of 75% or even 80% still leaves a 20% or 25% fatality rate, which is one out of ever four or five, still very high. I didn't even actually get uterine cancer and I was *beep* terrified.

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UTERAN????

it was OVARIAN CANCER, moron... NOT UTERINE!!! do some research!!!

And stop trolling around the board with this same stupid issue!

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Oh yeah shes a monster!!!!!! You people are heartless, she was dying, she was only 23 and had been with the same and only man since she was 17, she only wanted to know what it would be like to make love to another man, i mean my god what a MONSTER!!!!!!!!! I thought she was a GREATTTTTTT human being. She was loving, kind, selfless, had a great heart, loved her children more than anything, was an INCREDIBLE and very loving mother. I mean the fact that she actually left birthday messages for each daughter for every year till they were 18 just proves how much she loved them. That part was so sad i couldnt stop crying. She even said that she hoped they would understand why she didnt tell them, and i do understand, she said it was b/c she didnt want them to have to go through going to the doctors all the time with her, and having to constantly worry about her and be sad for her and watch her die and that they could just live the 2 months with her happily and remember her for that and not someone who was sick or always in the hospital. I thought that was very selfless and loving of her to do that for them. She was imo a very very good person. I dont know how you can say she was a horrible person, maybe you are the horrible person. I liked everything about her, and i understood why she wanted to have another relationship too, and it wasnt just some guy, she fell in love with him and he was a great guy and neither her husband or her kids ever knew about it. Anyway i loved her character and i LOOOOOOOOOOVED this movie. It was such a sad movie.

"MOMMA ALWAYS SAID LIFE IS LIKE A BOX OF CHOCOLATES, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOUR GONNA GET"

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I am totally with you. Your comments are firm and right to the point. I really enjoyed this movie and the music was only the topping to the cake.

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Thanks, yes great music too.

"MOMMA ALWAYS SAID LIFE IS LIKE A BOX OF CHOCOLATES, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOUR GONNA GET"

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I agree with you as well. It was a great movie and what she did was very understandable.

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Yeah what she did was understandable. She had two months to live, I think she's therefore allowed to be a little selfish.

*I saw in your eyes that you hate the world, I hate it too...*

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I think it was pretty *beep* up that she had the affair with a man who was still broken hearted about his wife leaving him. That was the worst part, to drag a total stranger in, make him love you, and then smash his already broken heart by telling him you're married and dying?

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But it seemed to make him happy.. look at him, he lived in an unpainted apartment with no furnature. She told him in her message to paint the walls and buy furnature.. He did this, and he laughed/smiled at the end. She turned his life around for the better.

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Dgave, you sound a little bitter, I want to point out that it is just a movie. I really enjoyed this movie, even though I don’t have a husband or children yet, I could relate to Ann and I understood what she was doing. I understood her reasoning for not telling her family, her children were so young that she didn’t want their last memory of her to be her dying in a hospital. She only had 2 months to live and there were things she wanted to do before she died, she told the doctor she had to do these things, that I really understood. If her family did know she would have been in and out of the hospital those two months, she would have never had the opportunity to do any of that stuff. I don’t think she would have had the affair if she was not sick, she loved her husband, that was very obvious. Dgave, you said, “The tape she leaves for her new boyfriend is far more loving than the short kiss-off she leaves for her own husband,” that I disagree with, I thought there were several scene’s where she was leaving Don messages, he loved for her sing to him and she left that on a tape, that was heart wrenching, because all I could imagine was the scene where he was holding her while she sang.

In my opinion she was far from horrible, she loved her family, accepted her fate and faced it. She didn’t just sit there, she lived as much as she could in the very short period of time, she had left.




Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

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Totally agree with you dgave. The fact that she choose to be this despicable person at the end of her life only proves the rest of her life was a joke. Betraying someone that loves her in the way she did, well she deserves more than contempt! The people here saying "oh, what did she do??" only seems to indicate that they lack any kind of morals themselves and are so blinded by their own selfishness that it is no wonder society is the way it is today! This need to "try things" without respect to how it will hurt others or themselves seems to be so commonplace that people dont know the definition of what common decency is anymore, to the point that there is no "common" or decency left (well almost).

No doubt, someone will think I'm some kind of religious fanatic since I have stated these things and stand on this "high" moral ground from which I cast judgement. Well they are entitled to think what they like, but in my books I have have SOME morals. I'm not religious or affiliated with any religious organisation, its just the way I think.

Post Edit - I didnt get to my real point, which is what counts...your principals. If you live by a certain principals (e.g. for those that seem to lack certain understanding - to treat the people you supposedly love with respect. Which in this instance means NOT sleeping around!) then you should die by them, otherwise you never had any! This movie seems to imply she wouldnt have slept around had she lived to a ripe old age. But just because she was dying "before her time" she deserves to be able to do as she likes! We all die, some earlier than others. Thats life. Living by the "good" principals in life is all that counts. Yes on the surface she was a "good" mother, but not a good wife. But she hardly set a good example for her children!

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I disagree with you. U can't judge sumthin trough it should be black or white, or it is wrong and that is not right from an ideal point of view. I think this movie, explain a different perspective someone's might have in handlin the reality they're not ready with. She's not horrible..not at all, infact she's describe a human..with all their weakness and strenghth..can't be and never will be, perfect..despite the agree or disagree of what others might think.

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dgave ..ur comments were way too serious man! lighten up a bit..enjoy life yo..!

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