9/11 was NOT an inside job

I think it's pointless to try to debate with people who think that 9/11 was a conspiracy or an inside job. Why? Because with every major tragedy in this country for as long as it's been around, there are always people coming out of the woodworks with all of their conspiracy/inside job theories. They've done it with Pearl Harbor, the Kennedy assassinations, OK City bombing, etc., etc. ALL of those incidents have been claimed by the nutjobs to be conspiracy theories/inside jobs.
Tons of books, movies, articles, etc., are always created 'proving' this. 9/11 is no different.



We don't care how they do it in Canada and Europe

I won't debate the islamic terrorist angle on that day or any of those days in question, but it's the resistance and the lack of cooperation from the government that worries me.

usafjay1976, Does it matter to you that 90% of the US media is owned by 6 corporations who make massive profits off of war and unrest?
Do you trust those 6 corporations to tell you the truth that much when their profits are on the line?

Sadly most people only believe known liars in government and "media" (90% of US "media" is owned by 6 corporations who make massive profits from war)

Here's some 9/11 facts:

1) The Secretary of Defense did not enter the chain of command until the morning's key events were over.

Check 9/11 Commission Executive Summary http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report_Exec.htm

Section titled: An Improvised Homeland Defense: "At more senior levels, communication was poor. Senior military and FAA leaders had no effective communication with each other. The chain of command did not function well. The President could not reach some senior officials. ***The Secretary of Defense did not enter the chain of command until the morning's key events were over.*** Air National Guard units with different rules of engagement were scrambled without the knowledge of the President, NORAD, or the National Military Command Center"
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SECTION The Pentagon Teleconferences:
"On the morning of September 11, Secretary Rumsfeld was having breakfast at the Pentagon with a group of members of Congress. He then returned to his office for his daily intelligence briefing.The Secretary was informed of the second strike in New York during the briefing; he resumed the briefing while awaiting more information. After the Pentagon was struck, Secretary Rumsfeld went to the parking lot to assist with rescue efforts."

911 Commission Report
pg 37 on document pg 54 on PDF counter
http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report.pdf

Rumsfeld did nothing for over 30+ minutes knowing it was an attack, and still did nothing even after the Pentagon was struck!

Rumsfeld should have been in the National Military Command Center(NMCC), the Pentagon war room, after the first plane hit and with out a doubt after the second plane hit....not just go back to his meeting and do nothing even after the Pentagon, the building he was in, was hit.

NORAD's Cheyenne Mountain Operations Center, which maintains up-to-the-second monitoring of airspace over the entire nation and would have easily tracked the unfolding attack, but everyone was asleep or knew nothing about anything...yeah, right.

Also see the June 2001 change in hijacking procedures a few months before 9/11.

https://web.archive.org/web/20060512090527/http://www.dtic.mil/doctrine/jel/cjcsd/cjcsi/3610_01a.pdf
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2) There was a gag order placed on workers at ground zero to silence them.

911stealth FDNY Under Gag Order Jobs at Stake https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrAmyDUjINc

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“It’s just amazing how many people are afraid to talk for fear of retaliation or losing their jobs,” said Isaac, regarding the FBI gag order placed on law enforcement and fire department officials, preventing them from openly talking about any inside knowledge of 9/11.

http://www.whale.to/b/szy10.html

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3) FEMA arrived on pier 92 Monday September 10th to setup for Operation Tripod, a Terrorism Drill planned for the 12th.

9/11 Rudy Giuliani - FEMA At Pier 92 On Sept 10 For Planned Terror Drill: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmPwwd1NdiU

9/11 To Be Honest ... FEMA Arrived In New York City On Monday Night: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EVIfwYKbM8

Also the MTI REPORT 02-06 Saving City Lifelines Lessons Learned in the 9-11 Terrorist Attacks page 15

http://transweb.sjsu.edu/MTIportal/research/publications/documents/Sept11.pdf just yet another "coincidence"
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4) NIST didn't look at any of the steel of building 7 it had been recycled instead of saving it for the investigations.

"because no steel was recovered from WTC7, it is not possible to make any statements about it's quality" NCSTAR1-3 7.7.2

http://www.krusch.com/books/911/Mysterious_Collapse_World_Trade_Center_7.pdf

During the official investigation controlled by FEMA, one hundred fifty pieces of steel were saved for future study. One hundred fifty pieces out of hundreds of thousands of pieces! Moreover it is not clear who made the decision to save these particular pieces. It is clear that the volunteer investigators were doing their work at the Fresh Kills dump, not at Ground Zero, so whatever steel they had access to was first picked over by the people running the cleanup operation.


"9-11 World Trade Center Evidence Removal Disguised As Rescue Effort 9-12-01 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucec1Y9wbR0 its about 10 and a half minutes, the whole video is important but at about 8 minutes 10 seconds in is where the info about evidence removal starts.

The government run FEMA "investigation" wasn't any better.
$ELLING OUT THE INVESTIGATION http://www.fireengineering.com/articles/print/volume-155/issue-1/departments/editors-opinion/elling-out-the-investigation.html

FEMA "investigators" were nothing more than tourists, only allowed to go and see what the government allowed.

Also see #7 below for more info on FEMA "investigation"
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5) NIST concealing the information that leads to their conclusions, because for some reason "disclosure of the information might jeopardize the public safety."

http://cryptome.org/wtc-nist-wtc7-no.pdf

NIST already said it was 1 column failing that started the "collapse" so anyone trying to use NIST info to bring a building down would just need to start some random fires and cut 1 column....building collapses almost perfectly...according to NIST that is.
And before you even try saying it was the damage from WTC 1 falling, "the damage from the debris from WTC 1 had little effect on initiating the collapse of WTC 7." NCSTAR1A p.39/130

NIST needs to show that their data inputs are not bogus, but NIST continues to refuse.
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6) NIST was finally forced to stop trying to lie and admitted Building 7 fell at freefall speed for at least 8 stories.

NCSTAR 1A 3.6] "This free fall drop continues for approximately 8 stories, the distance traveled between t=1.75s and t=4.0s...constant, downward acceleration during this time interval. This acceleration was 9.8m/s^2, equivalent to the acceleration of gravity." That means 8 whole stories of building 7 GAVE NO MORE RESISTANCE THAN AIR! Freefall can only be accomplished with demolition. Fire CANNOT cause freefall, ALL supports have to be cut at the same exact time for freefall to happen. Even known controlled demolitions can't always achieve freefall. There's no rationalizing freefall for any amount of time for building 7.


NIST tried to lie and tried hiding freefall until a high school physics teacher called them out on their deception.
In its draft report, released in August 2008, NIST attempted to cover up evidence that WTC7 fell at freefall, but the cover up was transparent. In its final report, released in November 2008, NIST finally acknowledged freefall, but couched it in a bizarre framework that continues to deny its clear significance. This video displays the brazenness of the NIST WTC7 coverup.
NIST finally admits freefall https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkp-4sm5Ypc
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7) Destruction of evidence (WTC steel, ATC tapes and information from the tortured detainees that the 9/11 Commission based their "report")

"Due to the small number of samples, statistical data analysis of the damage features and failure modes would be of little use" 6.4.1 Core Columns page 128 on the pdf file http://fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/fire05/PDF/f05130.pdf

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/07/us/tape-of-air-traffic-controllers-made-on-9-11-was-destroyed.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/07/washington/07intel.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 http://www.nbcnews.com/id/22217926/ns/politics-white_house/t/cia-destroyed-tapes-despite-court-orders/
http://www.newyorker.com/news/amy-davidson/jose-rodriguez-and-the-ninety-two-tapes

You know, those tapes that supposedly had "confessions" from terrorists that the 9/11 (C)ommission relied HEAVILY on to create their fairytale "report".

You have to take the governments word that they are not lying, really nothing the government has said is backed up with anything....it's either classified, destroyed or it's just some ATM withdrawls or bank accounts.


The US House Committee on Science reported, in March 2002:

" In the month that lapsed between the terrorist attacks and the deployment of the BPAT team, a significant amount of steel debris—including most of the steel from the upper floors—was removed from the rubble pile, cut into smaller sections, and either melted at the recycling plant or shipped out of the U.S. Some of the critical pieces of steel—including the suspension trusses from the top of the towers and the internal support columns—were gone before the first BPAT team member ever reached the site. Fortunately, an NSF-funded independent researcher, recognizing that valuable evidence was being destroyed, attempted to intervene with the City of New York to save the valuable artifacts, but the city was unwilling to suspend the recycling contract. Ultimately, the researcher appealed directly to the recycling plant, which agreed to provide the researcher, and ultimately the ASCE team and the SEAoNY volunteers, access to the remaining steel and a storage area where they could temporarily store important artifacts for additional analysis. Despite this agreement, however, many pieces of steel still managed to escape inspection."

"No clear authority and the absence of an effective protocol for how the building performance investigators should conduct and coordinate their investigation with the concurrent search and rescue efforts, as well as any criminal investigation: Early confusion over who was in charge of the site and the lack of authority of investigators to impound pieces of steel for examination before they were recycled led to the loss of important pieces of evidence that were destroyed early during the search and rescue effort. In addition, a delay in the deployment of FEMA's BPAT team may have compounded the lack of access to valuable data and artifacts."

"Difficulty obtaining documents essential to the investigation, including blueprints, design drawings, and maintenance records: The building owners, designers and insurers, prevented independent researchers from gaining access—and delayed the BPAT team in gaining access—to pertinent building documents largely because of liability concerns. The documents are necessary to validate physical and photographic evidence and to develop computer models that can explain why the buildings failed and how similar failures might be avoided in the future."

"Uncertainty as a result of the confidential nature of the BPAT study: The confidential nature of the BPAT study may prevent the timely discovery of potential gaps in the investigation, which may never be filled if important, but ephemeral evidence, such as memories or home videotapes, are lost. The confidentiality agreement that FEMA requires its BPAT members to sign has frustrated the efforts of independent researchers to understand the collapse, who are unsure if their work is complementary to, or duplicative of, that of the BPAT team. In addition, the agreement has prevented the sharing of research results and the ordinary scientific give-and-take that otherwise allows scientists and engineers to winnow ideas and strengthen results."


-From http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/science/hsy77747.000/hsy77747_0.htm
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8) There were Wargames on and around 9/11/01 one of them even included a hijacked plane crashing into the World Trade Center.

Peter Jennings Describes 9/11 Wargames: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpI9hD23Meg http://911proof.com/9.html

The Failure to Defend the Skies on 9/11 timeline http://www.historycommons.org/essay.jsp?article=essayairdefense


Yeah them running a "drill" that is the same as what is happening in real life....just yet another amazing "coincidence" to add to the mountains of other "coincidences". How many "coincidences" can you have for 1 event until you start to wonder?
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9) Bush and Cheney after delaying the start of the investigation for over a year and then only agreeing to appear before the commission on the condition that they: NOT BE UNDER OATH, testify together (not separately as was requested), behind closed doors and the testimony would not be recorded electronically or transcribed, and that the only record would be notes taken by one of the commission staffers and even these notes would not be made public! Total secrecy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9AoaU7LlTk

And the 9/11 (C)ommission relied heavily on another government run "investigation", Penttbom, which just like all the others, you just have to take the governments word that they are not lying to us again.

Penttbom was full of useless biographical info that proves nothing other than people have bank accounts and use ATM's. Penttbom was just like all the other government run "investigations", just statements made by the government with no actual proof.

And the "hijackers" just so happen to leave luggage full of just the right info to neatly tie them all together and they mostly used joint accounts so they could be easily linked with one another....that was just so nice of the "hijackers" to have all their info ready to go for the government to easily find.
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10) Cheney requested Tom Daschle (who was sent anthrax from a US military base) on several occasions limit the scope of the investigation and not to investigate the issue of prior knowledge.

Patrick Leahy and Tom Daschle – Opposed passage of the PATRIOT Act and received anthrax letters.

Cheney & Bush Asked Tom Daschle Not To Investigate 9/11 AT ALL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePOIhhd9Jr0

https://www.aclu.org/files/assets/CIA.pdf page 26

The President and Vice President trying to stop investigations into the biggest attack in our countries history is certainly not an irrelevant fact.

The anthrax was from a US military lab! Do you think Al Qaeda broke in and stole it or something? Or that Bruce Ivins had anything to do with it? As usual, the government has zero evidence Ivins had anything to do with it. Just yet another unanswered question about 9/11.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/new-report-casts-doubt-on-fbi-anthrax-investigation/

http://www.gao.gov/assets/670/667671.pdf

http://www.globalresearch.ca/head-of-the-fbis-anthrax-investigation-says-the-whole-thing-was-a-sham/5443516
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11) The Commission was not about assigning blame, no accountability, no one was fired, promotions were handed out instead...PROMOTIONS were handed out to the people in charge when the biggest supposed "failure" to protect us in our nations history happened.

Promotions after the 9/11 attacks: http://www.mountingevidence.org/appendix-b.html http://911blogger.com/node/12767

You don't promote failure.
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12) Bush and bin Laden families connections (Arbusto Oil, Bush Sr. would stay with the bin Ladens when he was in Saudi Arabia, Carlyle group whose members included Bush Sr. and Shafiq bin Laden OBL's brother had meetings in D.C. at the Ritz Carlton September 10 and 11, 2001. Search Bush bin Laden family connections plenty of information out there.

http://www.denverpost.com/rodriguez/ci_4319898
http://truth-out.org/archive/component/k2/item/69782:ties-between-the-bush-family-and-osama-bin-laden
http://www.globalresearch.ca/george-w-bush-and-the-bin-laden-family-meet-in-new-york-city-one-day-before-911/5332870
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/09_18_01_bushbin.html
http://noliesradio.org/archives/4810

Estranged from his family? maybe, maybe not. When your family member is a wanted person, I don't think anyone would say..."yeah we were hanging out last week" lol
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13) U.S. is offered bin Laden twice, before and after the attacks if they just provide evidence, the Bush Admin. refuses to do so.

Bush Was Offered Osama Bin Laden On A Silver Platter - 2/27/01: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX_t8qPQp1g END WAR No Evidence Given To Public Or Taliban On OBL Behind 9/11 & Thus Preventing Needless War: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LOTSxM_2oE
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14) 9/11 Commission Report was a Commission admittedly "set up to fail" according to the Chairman himself.

The 9/11 Commission was "set up to fail": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0LBARGBupM

Also check out Philip Zelikow, Executive Director of the 9/11 Commission, his college thesis was on the "Creation and Maintenence of Public Myths." Zelikow basically wrote the 9/11 Commission's myth, he decided what would be seen and what wouldn't be seen. Here is an article he did in 1998, 3 years before the attacks:

http://belfercenter.ksg.harvard.edu/publication/652/catastrophic_terrorism.html

The method employed by Phillip Zelikow is known as stove-piping. He had all information and evidence come directly through him and his judgment before it saw the light of day, if ever. According to sources, he would give fact-finding tasks to staff members (ex. Hijackers origins, Pentagon actions, F.A.A. response, etc.) and then take their conclusions, organize them with the other groups conclusions and rewrite everything. On more then one occasion, staffers complained that they were being told not to
investigate certain things or only focus on one issue. This method used by Mr. Zelikow is known as compartmentalization. It is commonly used by the N.S.A. or C.I.A. to make sure no one person can piece together all the components of a particular truth.
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15) There were many, many conflicts of interest in the 9/11 Commission members.

The conflicts of interest in the 9/11 Commission members and Henry "King of Coverups" Kissinger, a wanted war criminal.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4549161/conflict-interest-philip-zelikow-911-commission

http://www.dc911truth.org/flyers/4Supp911Conflicts.pdf
http://edition.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/12/13/kissinger.resigns/

Conflicts of interest in any investigation is certainly not irrelevant.
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16) Commissioner Max Cleland resigning from the 9/11 Commission saying "The White House is playing cover up."

http://www.democracynow.org/2004/3/23/the_white_house_has_played_cover

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17) There was elevator modernization, rust treatment and asbestos abatement of major steel support columns within the elevator shafts of WTC towers 1 and 2 that was ongoing leading up to 9/11.
And access to Towers elevator shafts means access to core columns where occupants can't see.

There was asbestos removal in the elevator shafts that was ongoing leading up to 9/11 (From the Merritt & Harris building assessment from Dec. 2000 pg.16) that says "Abatement of asbestos containing fireproofing material in elevator shafts is ongoing"

They also had access to the visco-elastic dampers. (from M&H building assessment from Dec. 2000 pg.15)
The visco-elastic dampers minimize the sway sensation, there were about 10,000 visco-elastic dampers between support columns and floor trusses throughout the building. And the next "physical sampling and analysis" of the visco-elastic dampers was in 2001.

There's also Demolition Access To The WTC Towers Part 1, for a lot more detailed info.

http://911review.com/articles/ryan/demolition_access_p1.html

Demolition Access To The WTC Towers: Part Two - Security http://911review.com/articles/ryan/demolition_access_p2.html

Demolition Access to the WTC Towers: Part Three - Carlyle, Kissinger, SAIC and Halliburton: A 9/11 Convergence

http://911review.com/articles/ryan/carlyle_kissinger_saic_halliburton.html

Demolition Access to the WTC Towers: Part Four - Cleanup http://911review.com/articles/ryan/demolition_access_p4.html


An article from Elevator World from March 2001 titled "Drive to the Top" by Robert Baamonde, Jr. Ace elevator undertook what was perhaps, one of the largest, most sophisticated elevator modernization programs in the industry's history. It took place at the WTC, they won second place for Elevator World's Project of the Year award.

There's also NIST, I would not call NIST a legitimate source for info but NIST itself says that, on 9/11, “Elevators 6A and 7A were out of service for modernization“. (NIST NCSTAR 1-8, p.97).


Major WTC renovations to be completed within one year of December, 2000 included rust treatment and asbestos abatement of major steel support columns within the elevator shafts of WTC towers 1 and 2, from M&H report, info highlighted in M&H report here: http://911blogger.com/news/2009-12-10/port-authority-nynj-no-records-contracts-all-major-wtc-renovations-recommended-year-2000-property-assessment
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And for anyone who thinks a building couldn't be rigged without people in the building knowing or anyone who thinks it couldn't be kept secret really need to look into the secret retrofit of the Citibank Tower. They brought people in to weld during the night and cleaned up and left every morning before the occupants arrived. The occupants had no idea what was going on in their building or the danger they were in.

I guess you think incendiary/explosives are always in boxes with Acme Explosives written on the side?

How Manhattan escaped tragedy (3 parts)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZhgTewKhTQ

The Secret Retrofit of the Citibank Tower in 1978
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_ekNosnieQ

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/buildingbig/wonder/structure/citicorp.html


http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1995/05/29/the-fifty-nine-story-crisis

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_eye/2014/04/17/the_citicorp_tower_design_flaw_that_could_have_wiped_out_the_skyscraper.html


I am sure some people can just ignore all these facts, but for anyone who isn't determined to over look or deny facts, please look deeply into 9/11.


WTC Explosive Connections pdf's (very detailed connections):

https://wikispooks.com/w/images/e/ef/WTC1_Explosive_Connections.pdf

https://wikispooks.com/w/images/6/65/WTC2_Explosive_Connections.pdf

usafjay1976

The Washington Times on Monday, September 10, 2001 no less, had an article titled "U.S. troops would enforce peace under Army study" on the Army School of Advanced Military Studies (SAMS) which says of the Mossad:"Wildcard. Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target U.S. forces and make it look like a Palestinian/Arab act."

AKA FALSE FLAG ATTACKS. You can't know which ones are which. No, not every bad thing that happens is a false flag, but the big events that change things, like 9/11, need to be looked into.


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2001/sep/10/20010910-025319-6906r/


Do you totally dismiss any possibility that our corporate/government/CIA disinfo tainted media would lie to us?