Not Certain I Really Want To Know . . .
But what the heck were the officers eating during their meals? Granted it was served up in a classy style, but it looked awful.
"I'm not reckless . . . I'm skillful!"
The brown dessert they eat is explained in the FAQ:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0311113/faq#.2.1.18
It looked like crap but it had chocolate, sugar and cream in it so it probably tasted ok. The officers would've eaten much better food than the ordinary sailors.
Thanks, that was helpful. It sounds tastier than it looked (and, if the crew was eating worse food than the officers, I'd lock my door at night if I were Captain).
"I'm not reckless . . . I'm skillful!"
The officers paid for their own food. They would appoint one of their number wardroom caterer, put as much cash as they could afford and put it into a kitty from which he would purchase supplies for the voyage. He would probably buy some chickens, and a nanny goat to give milk. The captain would bring his own supplies on board with him, which were not only for him but allowed him to invite his officers to dinner. Most of what is being eaten at that dinner will have been paid for by Jack.
shareJust to elucidate: yes, the officers ate better food than the ratings' rations, but only because they had catered and paid for it themselves. If the voyage lasted long enough without going into a port where they could re-stock, when the captain's and the wardroom stores ran out they lived on exactly the same rations as the men.
Granted, they ate those same rations off nice china, cooked and served up with more care and probably some added flavouring (spices work wonders, and a couple of pounds of cayenne pepper, nutmeg and so on will last a wardroom a heckuva long time). But it's important to remember that not only the officers themselves but the seamen as well felt this was entirely right and proper. Virtually everyone in Britain at that period took it for granted that officers should be gentlemen, and gentlemen should live and behave like gentlemen and not slum it.
(Devotees of the 'Richard Sharpe' TV series and books need to be aware that they are entirely inauthentic in this respect; common soldiers disapproved of 'ranker' officers as much as, if not more, than well-bred officers did.)
Syntinen, I grabbed part of your two messages and put them in the FAQ (as part of the Floating Island question, but we could probably do with an own entry for "Food" by now :-) ).
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Hi LG,
Bear..etc has edited the FAQ Did the Royal Navy back then allow black sailors equal status with the whites?, not only adding his/her claim about the 'Tippet Family Bible' but randomly chopping out chunks of the existing text and leaving it an incomprehensible mess. Was it you who last edited this FAQ, and if so have you by any chance still got the text on your PC so that it can be straightforwardly reinstated, rather than one of us having to reconstruct the whole thing from scratch?
I suggest simply removing it or alerting the webmaster to the vandalism, as the FAQ is not there simply for people with extremist ideologies to promote them with fanciful claims and dubious anecdotal "evidence".
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Whilst the officers did indeed have to eat the same food as the hands when their stores ran out on long voyages, the Captain had his own cook, who was usually able to make somewhat more palatable - and certainly more presentable - fare for the Captain's table.
"Oh good, my dog found the chainsaw..."
My English side of Family Bible states in detail that no black Africans served on
any of her Majesty's vessels.The Family Bible,in my safe deposit box dates back to 1620ad.
A major flaw in film in favor of New World Order.Revolting.
Well, 'bear' (skunk, more like) - while your ancestors were cowering in the orlop soiling their drawers, black sailors were fighting for the Royal navy:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/pathways/blackhistory/work_communit y/high_seas.htm
http://www.nelsonsnavy.co.uk/life1.jpg
http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/c7/e0/43/c7e043dbbb86729b0b97a1 ef5015ffc6.jpg
There are plenty of others. And you are a dick.
The church may shout but Darwin roars
Perfect, thank you.
"Chinese girls do not come with green eyes"
Why on earth would a family Bible contain that kind of information? One suspects there must have been a particular reason for it, and it rather gives the impression that your family had anti-abolitionist sentiments - a suspicion strengthened by your final remark.
It really is quite disturbing to hear about Holy Bibles being defaced in order to promulgate racist propaganda, but that's really another issue...
In any event, the historical record proves that the defacement of your Bible by these ancestors to be (one suspects, deliberately) erroneous information in any case. Anyone who has knowledge of Naval matters will e well aware that black and Asian sailors were far from being uncommon at the time in both the merchant and Royal navies.
"What do you mean, "we" Kemo Sabe?"..."
Have you got an issue with black Africans or, in fact, any other black people, Bear?
"Chinese girls do not come with green eyes"
(Devotees of the 'Richard Sharpe' TV series and books need to be aware that they are entirely inauthentic in this respect; common soldiers disapproved of 'ranker' officers as much as, if not more, than well-bred officers did.)
Not true. early in the series he was reviled by the men precisely BECAUSE he was a ranker. The dying officer gave him his sword because he thought it would make Sharpe appear ore of an officer to the men.
It was later on, when they were all making money from looting and prizes of the battles he had a hand in winning that they liked Sharpe.
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