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Hard to believe not one comment here, this guy was a celebrity



I remember as a kid a big deal was made, a whole counter-culture established that
had Timothy Leary and Ram Dass floating around in it, trying to gain attention.

This movie makes me wonder what was the point of all that. What there any point
to it, or would the country, world, have been worse off and boring without something
like this at the time?

The Beatles, the Indian spiritual revolution ... it's all BS, we are all the same, but how
would we know that if Ram Dass and others, culminating, at least currently with the
latest Indian charlatan, Deepak Choprah. And what kind of people find these folks
interesting or enlightening.

Lord, save me from being in such a dark place that people like this appear to be
light!

Anyway, the movie seems to show a man that means well, but we see an old man,
who got to where he is by making the mistakes of a young man and leading other
people down the primrose path so he could make money.

Ram Dass, Richard Alpert, had a stroke. We see him, weak, fat, feeble, and I wonder
who or what was he. How dare he sets himself up as a leader. Is it the chumishness
of people to blame, or should we all have an inner censor that keeps us from trying
to be snake oil salesmen even if there are people who will buy our snake oil.

That is the real enlightenment, but we never see that in the media, we never hear that
talked about ... if that is not a Zen conundrum, I don't know what is. At the bottom of
things, we are pretty much all the same, and it seems most of what we focus on is that
which distracts us into an absurd fantasy world in which we take this stuff seriously.

Can't say I like this movie much, or this person ... though it was on NetFlix, so it was
free ... so in a way it is an important movie, if you understand the context of who this
man was at the time ... and what he is today in retrospect ... just another product vying
for our eyes, ears, attention and money.

People like this who think they have something to say and struggle so hard to say
it are just preventing others from talking and pushing the idea that only some people
are important or in touch with God, or the truth, or whatever.

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When I was in my twenties in the early '90s, I remember really getting into "Be Here Now", and meditating on one drawing in particular... a little man sitting on a drum toe-ring of the goddess, that's how I felt about myself... clinging to the rocks, and then realizing I could appreciate that place in life, even make music there.

~*~

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I remember being impressed with that thick blue book as well, back in the 70's though.

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