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What happened to Viviane?


She got into the car with Alex and that was the last we saw of her?

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It means that she collaborates with nazis. Excuse my english, i'm french so i'll speack french.
On voit Vivianne dans la voiture avec le personnage de peter coyote, espion allemand pour les nazis. On la retrouve trois ans plus tard, sur l'écran. Elle continue donc à faire du cinéma. Si elle a continué à faire du cinéma, celà signifie qu'elle a fait de nouveaux compromis, avec le pouvoir. Et le pouvoir politique était à cette période détenu par les allemands.
La fin du film est donc à mon sens beaucoup plus amère qu'il n'y paraît...

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I babelfish the text and understood what you said.

Thanks for the reply. I wasnt sure if the film in the cinema at the end was a new film or and older one. It makes more sense to the story if it's a new one.

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I don't speak French so I didn't understand that...

I was under the impression that Vivianne was at the end of the film, and she just meets up with Frederic. (I'm not good with faces, but I thought this was Vivianne and not Camille - I assumed maybe Vivianne learned some self-confidence and stopped acting like a spoilt brat and left that Nazi bloke, turned up in Paris and decided to work on the side of the allies.) I thought the end of the film was a reference back to those earlier times - at the beginning of the film, when the two main characters meet again (Vivianne and Frederic), Vivianne mentions her singing part in one of her recent films. (Of course, Vivianne probably wouldn't ask after the professor, but I figured Camille would stay out of Paris and be with the other French prisoner.)

Have I missed the ending of this because I am really bad with faces? (Both girls looked similar to me, except for their hair styles.)

- Jenn
* http://www.medialondon.co.uk

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yes you definitely have missed the ending. the girl who met up with frederic in paris was camille, and when they were in the movie theater they saw viviane singing on screen.

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and what the person writing in french said was that the fact that viviane went off in the car with alex, and then appeared to still be acting in films, meant that she must have collaborated with the germans in a way ... "made new compromises", which gives the film an altogether sadder ending.

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I don't know that it was sad. I understood it to mean that people are who they are. I would like to have known what happened to Raoul, but with the premise that people are who they are, I guess I know.

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It is clear that Vivianne has turned into a collaborator, as others have mentioned, otherwise she wouldn't be playing in a movie in those times. True to her character, she has a good heart, she would like to run away from the Nazi Alex but he talks her back into his car...
Of course the girl being picked up near College de France in the last scenes of the movie is Sabine, who happens to work for the Resistence. She did change her looks a bit but it could have been inferred from the fact that she used to work at that college...
One problem I had in the last scene though was the fact that their papers are not in order. It is not credible that someone would be sent to France without proper papers...

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He got in by parachute with the help of the resistance.. they even mention it in their conversation at the café ;)

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the film they saw at the end with Viviane singing was the same film from the very beginning of the movie, hence the irony. remember she mentioned her singing and that it was dubbed, and i don't know the facts of french filmmaking, but i doubt that during the height of WWII, when the french were occupied by germany, they had enough resources to make new movies.

it was to show that frederic was finally over her. and that she no longer had her "spell" on him.

as far as her being in the car with peter coyote, and the look on her face, i think it's a "hitchcock" type ending, where you don't know exactly what she's going to do.

see "head in the clouds"

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In response to Putino, I think you and your father are mistaken. First, it looks great - in fact that's one of the things I really noticed.

Of course Adjani's character is trying to look 25 - she's playing a rather shallow and vain actress trying to look 25 (and succeeding with some people- notice that Coyote's character describes her to another as a "woman about 25").

I think it's utterly charming - just the right balance of amusement and suspense.

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If anyone was wondering, the French is something like:

You see Viviane in the car with Peter Coyote's character, a German spy for the Nazis. We see her three years later, on the screen (in her movie). She therefore has continued to make movies. If she continued to make movies, this tells us that she has made a compromise with the people in political power. And the political power during this period was held by the Germans. The end of the film in my opinion is therefore much more bitter than it appears.

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- • I think she falls for an important man. She tells that if he tells on her she will tell people that he is a spy. She becomes a great French actress. Hopefully gets a brain. I doubt it. It would be sad if she would lose all her hair like a lot of women did when people shaved the women who lived the Germans after the war.
have a great and wonderful day
barb from san francisco

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