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Making a better version

posted 20 years ago by JuggalotusShaggs
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I haven't even seen the movie yet but I've seen it at the local Blockbuster and passed it. It's got no one in it but that's not why I passed it up. It just doesn't seem like it's a good movie. I think I'd like to redo the story upon the book "The Embrace". But some of my own touches to it. See looking through the credits they left out some of the most important people to the story such as Rod's mother Sondra and his 'sire' in Kentucky Jaden. So it doesn't seem they did a good job with the story. Hell the cover makes it look like a really campy horror flick. I would love to make a better version to clear up a lot of what this movie missed within the story.

[–] deadgothic17 20 years ago

I have read the book as well and talked to a few of the people that knew rod. the left s*it load out of the story.

I did like vampire clan but I think it could have been better. If you did do a new verson I'd love to be rod. I look alot like him. I'm just as tall I have the the smae hair and the same body.

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[–] cryshays 20 years ago

Are you people just not getting that this story happened in real life?? These kids were dillusional and thought they were vampires who had powers. This happens in real life, hence the movie. I just got done watching it, and to think that that happened in real life makes me wonder about the people around me. I know that I had a few goths in my high school (as well as everyone else).

But it happens. But good thing that they are in prison now. The 2 guys will never be able to get parole, and the girls (though they were apart of the murder, they were only told about it) got 10 - 17 years in prison for being accesories to the murders.

We just can't forget the fact that this does happen in real life, no matter how hard we try not to notice it.

What do you want??

[–] tcdarkness 20 years ago

I'm writing a real-life murder script myself about 5 slayings in my hometown of Gainesville and I will admit that writing non-fiction screenplays is probably the hardest to do. Embellishing the facts should be out of the question. But sometimes you have to fill in the information you don't know or make up quotes that may be untrue just to fill in the screenplay. I don't think the writer of this did that. It is pretty much by the numbers in terms of what actually happened and what little was made up does not really add much. The dialogue really isn't that strong and the tale did not need to be told in back-and-forth flashbacks.

With regard to leaving some stuff out, I wouldn't hold that against the writer. A screenplay needs to be limited in number of characters and scenes. I don't know enough about this murder story to know if what was left out was the good stuff, but it seems right to confine the tale to just before the murders and up to them being caught.

[–] Tarazed13 20 years ago

Gainsville?? is that where the students were murdered?? think I read a small bit about it (excuse my ignorance Im a brit LOL - thats my excuse!!)

I agree its really hard for factual films as it also has to be entertaining within a film as well as accurate. Im an actor and I think its really important for the cast as well as the writer to understand when filming that the events really happened and understand the weight of responsibility they have to all involved in the actual events in order to fairly represent their characters

Anyway thats my rant LOL just to say I havent seen it yet I have ordered the movie but its taking forever to arrive I am SO looking forward to seeing it *grin*

*** Bite Me ***

[–] tcdarkness 20 years ago

Yes, Gainesville's the place. Here's some info on that case.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial/rolling/rolling/

It isn't too difficult for factual films to be dramatic, but they can't just be told in regular fashion as it actually occurred. You do have to dramatize them a little. When writing my script I added scenes that may not have taken place but could have happened, but adding the scene in makes it apparent why a character acts as he or she does and why they react the way they do. I decided to make some character rather off the wall compared to what they might have been like in real life. Was a person like this in real life? I don't know; I never interviewed them.

[–] Tarazed13 20 years ago

oh I agree I do understand that there is a certain dramatic lisence to any film I just see a lot of film "killers" doing the crazy eye syndrome bringing with it a loss of credibility I think my point is really a reminder for all actors including myself is always to remember to be faithful to the script and the actual people involved - if they were crazy or written crazy play them that way, if they werent try and remember their motivation behind their actions

Thanks for the link :)

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[–] brewpub420 11 years ago

JHC Rolling.... I heard a copy of that tape with the song and sign off to his dad before he started that spree years ago.....took forever to get that line in the chorus out of my head. That guy was fckn nuts beyond nuts. I see the post here was almost a decade ago , did your screenplay ever get made?

[–] djvampira 18 years ago

Being 'goth' has nothing to do with people who think that they are vampires. The whole 'I wanna be a vampire' syndrome is totally seperate from the goth subculture.

Opinions are like a**holes, everybody has one.

[–] sallygirl 18 years ago

i liked the movie for it's realisticness. i know people like those people. i'm not far off, honestly. But i'm sane enough to know i'm not 100% sane. they weren't so lucky. I also have a strong moral and spiritual path, makes me much safer to hang out with. But still, I have to admit, i understand totally why those of these kids that weren't totally insane like Rod did follow him anyway. i've known people with enough charisma to almsot literally MAKE people follow them.

I'm really not sure if i want people to understand that goths aren't insane and being goth doesn't mean you have to like and want to be a vampire. i don't want goth becoming such a fad again like it was in the mid-late 90's. that cheapend it so much. but it's better now, i think :)

also, believing you're a vampire, doesn't mean you're insane, either. but that's a whole huge other issue entirely. few people realise that there is a real, serious sub-culture of people who believe they are not human or not entirely human. most of them are not dangerous. And also, contrary to popular belief, not all of those people play RPG's or only gather online. it's not online-based, nut the net simply makes it easier to co-ordinate things

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[–] QueenQueef 20 years ago

NO, have you ever seen charmed? that is a pretty famous show and Drew Fuller(the hottest man alive, Rod Ferell) was on it recently as Paige's son. and just because famous ppl arent in movies, doesnt mean they rnt good actors. There are many good actors and actresses that are wonderful, just waiting to be discovered. You should really pick it up, its a wonderful movie and based on a true story. Once you see it, you wont believe ppl really do this everyday-kill people.I really want to read the embrace. Just because I-or ppl happen to wear black instead of pink doesnt mean they r screwed up in the mind, and they shouldnt be called something different. Ok, thats all I have to say.

[–] DumbBrunette 20 years ago

Paige's son? Try Piper's.

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[–] librarian1011 18 years ago

I've ordered the movie, so am waiting impatiently to see it. I too admit to an "overly perverse fascination with this case" though in my case it's because I live near Eustis. I was here when it happened and I know people who had interactions with Rod Farrell. In fact a friend of my husband's actually went to school with Heather and met Rod on several occasions. It's all a little scary to think it's in your own backyard, so to speak. Also one of my co-workers at the time helped Aphrodite Jones write her book "The Embraced!" My co-worker and her husband, a judge, knew more first hand knowledge than they should. I also know the judge that presided over Rod's case. So in a sense it's a little personal.

J~

[–] falcongirl386 18 years ago

didnt oth he boys get death sentances? i think there dead....

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