Why all the Jews?
Not interested in antisemitism. Just want to know why a good percentage of the characters in this film are either Jewish, or have Jewish surnames. Are Jews particularly active in the American folk scene?
shareNot interested in antisemitism. Just want to know why a good percentage of the characters in this film are either Jewish, or have Jewish surnames. Are Jews particularly active in the American folk scene?
shareSteinbloom and Cohen in a cast of dozens? Am I not remembering other Jewish surnames from the movie?
Georgina: Are we safe here?
Michael: Does Albert read?
Lars Olfen uses Hebrew words like "mitzvah" and "shalom", so I think it's more than implied that he's Jewish (or at least wants to give the impression he is).
Menschell sounds very much like a Jewish name, Mensch being a Yiddish word.
There does seem to be a proliferation of Jewish characters in this film. Let me specify that I have no problem with that, as it happens my own father is Jewish just fyi. I'm just curious as to whether there's any particular reason for it.
Well Jews are involved in any form of show biz and obviously they were very big in executive depts. in 50/60's record industry.
But the running joke in the film was the singer who went by (Sandy Pitnick?)Anglo monaker "Ramb'lin" but was really Jewish. He was a take-off on the real "RAmblin Jack" who was actually Elliot Charles Adnopoz fom Brooklyn.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramblin%27_Jack_Elliott
I thought Lars was over-using the Yiddish in that one scene to try to "fit in" with Balaban's character, to endear himself and show what great friends he had been with Steinbloom.
The war is not meant to be won... it is meant to be continuous.
Lars Olfen uses Hebrew words like "mitzvah" and "shalom", so I think it's more than implied that he's Jewish (or at least wants to give the impression he is).He definitely ins NOT Jewish. He's just trying to fit in, as a Swedish immigrant. No Jew speaks like he does. That's the joke.
Steinbloom seems to be at least partly modelled on Moses Asch, the founder of Folkways Records.
This is not a sig. It's just so you don't think the last line of my post was a sig.
Wow, your half Jewish and you don't know the history of your people? The reason for the Jewish surnames is because yes indeed Jews were and are heavily involved in the music business and certainly in the folk music business at that time.
I think the film is only trying to be honest in capturing the times.
There's no such thing as "half-Jewish" in Jewish lore. You are either Jewish or you are not.
I am not. I was not raised Jewish, I was never bamitzfa'd (or however it's spelled), I have a foreskin, am an atheist and have had pretty much no contact with the Jewish "community" throughout my life.
As with much of the rest of the music industry, the so-called "folk" music revival of the 1960's was led and supported by Jews.
So many Jews are in the show biz
Bruce Springsteen isn't Jewish
But my mother thinks he is.
All Christopher Guest movies are filled with Jews.
shareLots of behind-the-scenes people in folk music were Jewish. Harold Levanthal was manager for The Weavers, Joan Baez, Judy Collins, etc.; Manny Greenhill of Folklore Productions represented Mike and Pete Seeger, Doc Watson, etc.; and Al Grossman was the kingpin behind Dylan, Peter, Paul & Mary, Ian & Sylvia.
Moe Asch was the founder of Folkways Records; Maynard and Seymour Solomon founded Vanguard Records; and Jac Holzman was the founder of both Elektra (mostly a folk label in the beginning) and Nonesuch. Izzy Young of course was the owner of the Folklore Center in Greenwich Village. All of 'em Jewish.
The other posters trying to downplay the all Jewish names in the movie are missing the point. "Irving Steinbloom" isn't just Jewish. It's comically hyper-Jewish. If you try to deny it, you're not getting the jokes!
I'll take intelligent humor over political correctness any day.
Great post! And I'm not even Jewish!
share<<"Irving Steinbloom" isn't just Jewish. It's comically hyper-Jewish.>>
This makes me think of three things:
1. A radio show I used to listen to about 25 years ago, where the Jewish host once attempted to devise the most Jewish name possible. I don't think he had a first name, but the last name he came up with was Bergmansteinowitz or something like that (or maybe it would be spelled Bergman-Steinowitz).
2. Dennis Wolfberg, a great stand comic who unfortunately passed away quite a few years ago, once appeared on the Tonight Show. When Jay Leno pointed out that it was Rosh Hoshannah and that the comic shouldn't be working, Wolfberg launched into this brilliant explanation about the levels of orthodoxy of Judaism. "There's Orthodox Jews, Conservative Jews, and Reformed Jews. I'm a Reformed Jew, and so I'm allowed to work on Rosh Hoshannah. Orthodox and Conservative Jews don't consider us to be 'real' Jews. They call us Jew Lights!".
3. When I quoted the Dennis Wolfberg thing to a Jewish friend, he said "That's funny. My Grandmother was a Reformed Jew, and she used to call the Orthodox Jews 'Superjewish'!".
Has anyone mentioned Woody Guthrie?
The patron saint of American folk music-
and a Jew?
He wasn't Jewish. His second wife, Marjorie, was.
shareGuthrie wasn't Jewish. His torch-bearer, Robert Zimmerman, is.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.
From The JewishPress.com:
What is not as well known about Woody is that his wife and children were Jewish; that he raised his children as Jews; and that he wrote songs about Jewish history, Jewish holidays, and the Holocaust.
Guthrie was married, for a time, to Marjorie Mazia, who was Jewish.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.