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If you are Native, you truly understood Dreamteller.


What I liked most about the story was; it was told in the old ways of teaching. Surly an American Native did relate well to this very good story as I did. A few years ago I also wrote a similar type Native American story. Here is the link if you are interested. http://aghostwriter.com/ravenindex.html

Respectfully, Black Hawk

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I am not Native, but I felt that this was a powerful film. One that should make Natives feel very proud!

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I had a conversation with my mother many years ago about us being Cherokee. I had gotten confirmation about a year ago that her grandmother, my great great grandmother lived in the old ways of the Cherokee Nation. She was a herbalist and a healer. As I sat watching this movie the first time then watching it again the next day, I cried. I felt such pride for my heritage. I sat there telling my daughter how much I understood all that was being said and seen for she did not. It feels good to tell others how much I understood of this movie and how much it was cherished.

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I understood it, some of the stories on this movie I had heard before, told to me by my father and at school. I loved this movie, all the characters seemed so real. At least this way, some of the good stories will be preserved and passed on to all who watch it.
-pCe-

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I am not a Native, but I understood this story perfectly. I envy a culture that lives with their souls and not weapons and war all the time. This movie was amazing.

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Im native american but i was kinda confused but i really dunno anything bout my culture Im half navajo on my dadz side my mom is jewish but i live wit my dad & he hatez indianz & thier culture * really doesnt make any sense does it lolz* so ive never been 2 a pow wow or eaten any native food im more of a eat chipz hang out wit friendz sleep on the couch kinda indian i guess lolz the begining of the movie was kinda a drag but i got more in2 it towardz the middle

"Some dayz itz a good day To die Some dayz itz a good day To have breakfast"

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That's too bad, LoneWolf. I found Dreamkeeper to be a very insightful movie. My friend, he and his youngest daughter are Native American. I have much respect for them, and have come to respect Native Americans even more since I've known them.

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dun take this the wrong way fallen r u white? bcuz if u r i think thatz really amazing lolz i just moved in wit my dad & he livez in a really small white community in the middle of no where & every1 is alwayz askin me if i live in a teepee or smoke a peace pipe LOLZ

"Some dayz itz a good day To die Some dayz itz a good day To have breakfast"

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Yes, I am caucasion.

And, you shouldn't let other people bother you. They are just thick-headed and narrow-minded.

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they dun bother it just getz annoying after a while u kno. itz actually pretty funny when thier serious & really think u do live in a teepee or w/e lolz

"Some dayz itz a good day To die Some dayz itz a good day To have breakfast"

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That would be funny...I can't believe some people...

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by - Sonseearray on Tue Mar 22 2005 12:32:46 Im native american but i was kinda confused but i really dunno anything bout my culture Im half navajo on my dadz side my mom is jewish but i live wit my dad & he hatez indianz & thier culture * really doesnt make any sense does it lolz* so ive never been 2 a pow wow or eaten any native food im more of a eat chipz hang out wit friendz sleep on the couch kinda indian i guess lolz the begining of the movie was kinda a drag but i got more in2 it towardz the middle.


I know that you don't post here anymore, but I'm gonna respond to you anyway.

You can't even get your facts right about your Native heritage.

Sonseearray
Biography My names Jessica and I am a Native American, 3/4 Apache and then a mix of Cree and Lakota if you care



How can you be half Navajo on your dad's side but also be 3/4 Apache?

And your mom is a JEW. No NDN at all.

Which one is it?

Could it be that the little Jewish girl is just a wannabe.

In the past you have ridiculed me you stupid little bitch.

Well I finally caught you in a damn lie.


Karma is a bitch, a slut, and a whore.
And, you get screwed in the end.

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What? The only reason I tuned into this movie was because I happen to think Eddie Spears is one good looking dude. This movie was directed at a non-Indian audience and I sure as heck didn't relate to the entire movie; although, there were some really funny moments like the poor White kid who thought he could get an Indian name.

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yeaz sum ppl. therez this 1 gurl who thinkz i was born on another planet we really need 2 get better teacherz 4 schoolz lolz. i didnt think the movie was as emotional as the movie was as emotional as they wanted it 2 b but the movie still rawked. i think itz more of an example of what nativez go thro 2day family wanting ur life 2 revolve round the culture wherez u dun wanna b stuck in hickville 4ever & u do get crap from other ppl altho ive never been called a chili picker lolz I dun kno any white ppl wit indian namez except i call my mom Chaa-duu-ba-its-iid an after i saw the missing thaank god shez never seen the movie lolz

"Some dayz itz a good day To die Some dayz itz a good day To have breakfast"

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watching this movie gave me a sight on plains indians. my brothers and sister are lakotah, and they lived on pine ridge reservation before we adopted them. i think it opened their eyes that preserving their heritage is very important.

I'm goin' through a divorce! D..I..V..O..R..C..E! DIVORCE!

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i think it really is important to preserve culture i mean most indians i know just dont really care anymore or work at cusinos

"Some dayz itz a good day To die Some dayz itz a good day To have breakfast"

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This movie was positively psychedelic! I loved the weird camerawork. And what a great cast. Eddie Spears is a wonderful actor and just astheticaly beautiful. August Schellenberg rocks! I was so tickled by Gary Farmer and John Trudell as the tricksters who appeared in the story sequences. Great dual role essayed by the "poor white kid" Scott Grimes as Tehan and the modern-day hitchiker who bugs Shane and amuses Grandfather. What a mesmerizing delight this movie is! Yes, they should definitely make more films like this. It's not for everyone becuase some of it is really out there on the edge. But ultimately, it's got power and scope and it's wildly entertaining if you just go with it.

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I seriously haven't seen it yet, but I saw it at the video store... and I'm going to purchase it of course! I met Travis Dugas about 6 yrs ago, he came to our Treaty Day's Celebration and danced... Hoop Dancer I believe. And I recognized him when he came into a store that I worked in at the time. Immediately whipping up a convo; he mentioned this movie that he appears in... I forgot what it was called. [Dreamkeeper... I know now. Haha] So... yes... can't wait to watch it!

And he IS a damn good HOOP DANCER.

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one of the stories that was based in Akwesasne, the land of the mohawks, is actually where i live. i first watched this movie in mohawk class and i really liked it.

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this movie is a great way to teach people that we as native people have stories like this to tell. i know growing up i heard a lot of stories from the elders that were as wonderful as these!

~a true friend stabs you in the front~

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I read The Song of Flutes (tales told by Leonard Crow Dog, John Lame Deer and others) and was delighted to see the tale of the woman cooking the livers (featuring Coyote and Iktome), this movie is totally wonderful. Loved the commentary track that comes with the dvd, it's very informative. SPOILER - Some favorite special effects that were awesome, the Bear Butte waking up, the Thunder Being who loves the earth woman, the fight sequences with the Dun horse riding amidst showers of arrows, oh so many wonderful scenes! I love this movie!

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i love this movie too b/c they are stories that your elders tell u. i would love to see a movie like this with a bunch of native ghost stories. i remember in mohawk class they always told us ghost stories when we were good and i was always scared. some people are still scared when u mention one of the people thats in a story called the hoof lady. i was driving with my friends and i just mentioned her name and they freaked out and said not to talk about her. i mean we are all 18 yrs and older and they're legitimately scared of this being that is supposedly real. idk she might be i've never seen her and i dont think i want to but i still believe something like that could be real. people always talk about shapshifters too. one of my mohawk teachers said she was one. she told us she once turned into a bat and hit the steeple of the church at st regis point and woke up on the ground near the church in the morning naked. haha. she was always telling us stories. idk this could be all real but im not traditional and stuff like that happens to them more often. i remember when i worked at a cigarette factory on the rez a few summers ago a girl was talking about how they left food out for the spirits and ur not supposed to be there when they eat it or something. the food keeps them from hurting people, something like that. and i've always heard about people getting bad medicine put on them. idk strange stuff does go on around here. i would know more about it if i was longhouse but my family isnt traditional idk why i guess the catholics converted my grandparents and now we r catholic. i wish i was tradional though b/c i would be able to carry on conversations in mohawk but i cant and my grandma is a retired mohawk teacher and only two of her grandkids are fluent. probably b/c their mom and dad are traditional. my aunt joined the longhouse when she married her husband.

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I am not a First American, but my wife and I thought this was an incredibly beautiful movie. I rented it from Netflix and enjoyed all the Special Features as well. There are correlations in all ancient myths and the First Americans share in the story of human life. This was a fabulous film which I will not forget. Thanks and kudos to all the people that made it possible. A magnificent achievement!

Nothing is more beautiful than nothing.

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I am white, watching this movie for the first time right now. I had to stop it in the middle to come and say how great it is! Every culture has its amazing stories but I really love this movie. I find it much more entertaining than I thought I would. Some parts of it are understandably hard to film (such as showing a thunder spirit in a human form, like they do in the movie). Does anyone else think this would make an amazing animated movie, sort of like Spirited Away, but keeping this story-line? I think animation could perhaps work better for some of the scenes and to depict the spirits.

Great movie though. 8 out of 10 stars!


When I pull the wings off of the fly/ The fly never wonders why I did it.

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YOu don't have to be native to understand such things. Do you think it's possible to have a native soul even if you were born to white people?


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RIP Heath Ledger

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Exactly. We call it empathy.

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