Whispered


What did the two of them whisper in bed, the "only true thing" she meant?

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I haven't seen the movie yet, but just from reading the play...the audience never finds out. It's suppose to be ironic that the one thing that was truthful in the entire story...was something that we don't even hear or see. It's between the characters. Pretty much it's one of those...what do you think she said?

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Just wondering why the camera lingered on 'she loves him' before the credits? Is that meant to imply, decieve, be ironic, or what? There is no way that was unintentional.

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just a thought. she was making something else for her thesis. it was only in the last couple weeks that she made what she presented. she said there is only art but artists are people too, everything was real, she just didnt think it was love. she knew that he actually loved the blonde chick not her so she, in a melodramatic way, is getting out of his life.
he will probably get with the blonde chick now.
what im trying to say is, at the end of the film we think thats what it was, she made it all up, but no she didnt, her presentation is the deception of deceptions.
just a possibility.

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and thats why the camera ended on "she loves me, she loves me not?" which is age-old shakespeare if im not incorrect? nobody knows which interpretation it is.
but im guessing the "whisper" to get back on topic of this thread, (couldve been anything) but im gona suggest it was her saying something like "you are great in bed" or "you make me feel good".

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I agree Julius. I always thought the whisper was something positive he did in bed...how he made her feel in that moment.

The linger on the "she loves me not" with the flickering not at the end...was special for the movie. If you listen to the commentary, Labute went toward the "did Evelyn disconnect herself as much as she did...or did she in fact fall a bit for her master piece?" He explains in the commentary that the way he put together Weisz's performance in the end, it was suppose to give off the feeling that she felt more than she wanted known (you can definitely see what he's talking about when she discusses the wrong doing with Jenny). In the play it is so easy to see Evelyn's complete disconnection. But with certain cuts of dialogue from the play and shots of pained looks from Weisz...there is that feeling of she felt more. So another reason for the "she loves me not," the not is a literal...did she or didn't she? for the movie.

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I always kind of thought, especially based on what I perceived as his hurt reaction when she told him it was the only true thing, that she actually told him the truth in that moment. A lot of times my girlfriend and I will tease each other and say things about not really loving each other, etc., but it's obvious we're just kidding around. Maybe she said something to him along the lines of, "I don't really love you," but he just assumed at the time that she was kidding around.

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Thats one of the points I thought of, but no one would be in her thrall anymore after whats happened. People can lose their feelings for someone after something so bad, like flicking a switch. Where you just no longer care, are beyond caring.
I do think however that although she doesn't love him, she cared enough for him to give him something in return, the complete detachment can never be 100% unless it's somekind of emotion suppressing drug. Moral detachment is possible for some people though (psychopaths).

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My guess - and that is not meant to be funny: That she likes the shape of his penis. Think about it for a while (e.g. considering the very beginning, maple leaf, dialogue).

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I think she did end up falling for him in the end. A twist on Pygmalion, to which Adam refers at one point. The literary references aren't just there... they mean something. In essence, Adam is Galatea, or Eliza Doolittle and Evelyn (Adam and Eve... makes you think they may be literally made for each other) is the archetypal creator who must, even though she is disconnected, love that which she creates. She must say something to the effect that she does, in fact, love him. The other literary allusion was to Othello (handkerchief with strawberries on it), who destroyed the one thing he loved the most, his wife, Desdemona. In the same way, Evelyn was driven by her passion for her work, to destroy the one thing in her life that actually held any meaning... her relationship with Adam.

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No I'm pretty sure shes a sociopath, she doesn't love him but she cares for him.
If it was love then she would not have ruined him like this. Humiliation & betrayal, care more about her work than him.. hoping that it wouldn't wreck him or be "that bad, or he'd get over it". Regardless it's still cruel.

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I think it may be "I am glad you opened up to me." and it's true because she asked afterward if he was always this shy. She also would have been glad for him to open up and have sex with her despite not being able to do it in the past with many girls because him opening up and changing is her art project. I also think she began to develop feelings for him towards the end which is why it was so hard for her at the beginning of her presentation, and she had a tear in her eye at the end, but either way she thought it was best they didn't speak ever again so she said that was the only truthful thing she said to him...

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because she, having already stuck the knife deep in, was executing a final twist of it. She knew that this would torture him one last time and that was precisely the reaction she evinced. He already knew that nothing she had told him was true, and yet he leapt to cling on to this final proffered morsel like a drowning man. Any port in a storm, but he will reflect that it was simply the final lie. Perhaps the sociopathic EAT meant for him to feel better, had offered him a palliative to deflect possible immediate retribution, out of self-preservation.

Speaking of which, if it be true that "there is no place for morality in an art gallery", then one would assume that she, having embraced and emblazened this dictum across a wall of one, would have approved of him sticking a knife in her throat right then and there. After all, it's a phrase she introduced early on which she was very quick to cover up. But we can deduce that such a concept did form part of her working phraseology. And, lord knows, the bitch deserved it.

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"...would have approved of him sticking a knife in her throat right then and there. ... And, lord knows, the bitch deserved it."

I think it's pretty disturbing that you would say a person "deserves" to be murdered for being a supreme and manipulative bitch. I guess women who dress attractively are also "asking to be raped"?!!

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You appear to not have read my reply carefully enough. To repeat

if it be true that "there is no place for morality in an art gallery", then...

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She might not deserve death but a beat down is definitely needed.







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didn't anybody else have the sound on? i did, and clearly she said, "garb blah goo bahbah bleh blick".

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