I liked this movie (A LOT) ! - Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever (2002) Discussion

[–] chrisw_79 18 years ago

you must be joking. are you sure you commented on the right movie? Because I saw this one, and...well...its really, really bad

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[–] shmn 17 years ago

i love iran, i hate this movie and americans, you are absolutely right

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[–] davidgoesboating 17 years ago

Therefore I must conclude that gay people and Iranians are far better judges of film quality than you.

As for the latter, Abbas Kiarostami is a very highly regarded director, and Iranian at that. Needless to say, he wouldn't have gone near this movie.

(p.s. this film was rated as the worst of all time by critics on rottentomatoes.com... ah well, guess they must all be gay Iranians ;) )

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[–] King_of_Five 18 years ago

It's not Oscar-material, but heck - it's an action-packed, fast-paced movie that gives you action and a small plot and a few VERY good action-scenes.

Since I've got background in both Eskrima and Tae Kwon-Do I especially enjoyed the beautiful slow-motion scene with Lucy Liu and the ASP-batons - heck, I haven't seen that nice and excellent photography in many movies !!!

As for the characters, development and plot...it gives you exactly what it says a no-frills action-movie with cool stunts/special effects and actors.

Two thumbs up from me !

Fools, you don't know who this is really? It's Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin, duh!

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[–] curtis_1000 17 years ago

Anyone who enjoyed this movie needs their food privileges taken away.

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[–] gregglop09 16 years ago

It's a good movie, I saw it online like 3 months ago and loved it

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[–] coza_1812 17 years ago

I'm with this guy, the story line and pretty much everything about this movie (apart from the action) was rubbish but it was never meant to be good. I loved the action sequences it's one of the best action flick's I've seen in years. The camera-work and the coreography more then made up for the crappy everything else.

If my life was a movie, I think I'd probably watch it.

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[–] creamy_gdnss 17 years ago

This is on the top 50 worst movies ever made an its not even on the cult "so bad, their good list"

Its just really, really, reeeeeeeeaaaaalllllllllyyyyy suck hard.

I want 2 hours of my life back, they would have been better spent learning how to break a cinder block with my face.

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[–] greenyboy411 17 years ago

You know, this movie is on the list of flicks I saw when I was still pretty young, and love for that reason. I thought it was freakin awesome back then, and I still love it now. The same goes for MI2. Now shame me all you want.

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[–] chrisw_79 17 years ago

I saw demolition man when I was about 15, and loved it...now, when its on TBS every weekend, I think 'man, this is really bad....'

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[–] Nicelodeon 16 years ago

Bad title, bad story, action was good.
but tbh it's way under rated.
a 5 would suit it well....

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[–] BornAndBred 17 years ago

You are obviously crazy. This is one of the worst movies ever made. Yes.........even worse than Battlefield Earth. Now who thought that would be possible?

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[–] thirteenchambers 17 years ago

I remember being with my parents at the theater when I was five years old. They got me up and left the place to go home in the middle of the movie. The movie was "The Man from Snowy River" and I never could understand why they left the theater. I watched the movie later on in life and I thought it was boring but felt like I could sit through it at the theater. I have been to the theater many times and sat through many stanky films and never got up and left. The day I went to see "Ecks vs Sever" was the day I understood my parents and I got up and went home during the movie. This is all have to say so... have a great day... peace.

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[–] calikidd2k 17 years ago

Whatever, I can think of a lot of movies I would walk out of before this... like Kill Bill 2. I've tried watching that two or three times now and just can't bring myself to finish it.

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[–] calikidd2k 17 years ago

I'm not.

I could sit thru this, I failed multiple times to sit thru Kill Bill 2

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[–] calikidd2k 17 years ago

Well, if Kill Bill 2 is a 'good movie' then I suppose I don't.

But then again, I know plenty of people (and by plenty I mean everyone I've ever talked to about the movie before you) who thought Kill Bill 2 was way worse than the first one, for many to the point of being unwatchable. Something I think is reflected in it's much weaker rental numbers compared to the first.

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[–] calikidd2k 17 years ago

Well, I suppose. Maybe if it had been a completely different movie I might have liked it okay, but I'm just saying after loving the first one so much I was too let down by the second to ever finish watching it.

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[–] calikidd2k 17 years ago

Well, generally I would agree with you, (and lord knows I've sat thru some crap) but for some reason this is one of those few exceptions for me.

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[–] calikidd2k 17 years ago

Seen it, own it and have watched it numerous times.

Well two of my all-time favorites would be "Kingdom of Heaven" and "In God's Hands," though I acknowledge "In God's Hands" is loathed by more than a few people. Other "greats" would include "Apocalypse Now" "Seven Samuri" and "Smoke Signals."

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[–] calikidd2k 17 years ago

Difference of taste perhaps

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[–] BornAndBred 17 years ago

Whats your major malfunction calikidd2k??? The movies are called KILL BILL. Are actually trying to tell me that you outright refuse to see how she eventually kills him?? Whats NOT to like about the equally brilliant Kill Bill Vol. 2? The amazing scene when Beatrice is locked in the coffin and the audience are forced into severe claustrophobia? The brilliant Pai-Mei training sequence? The awesome trailer fight between Beatrice and Elle Driver? The black and white flashback of the Bride's wedding day massacre? The fantastic dialogue between Bill and Beatrice at the end (not to mention Bill's CLASSIC Superman vs Beatrice analogy)? Forget all that. Aren't you the least bit interested in seeing if Beatrice gets her daughter back? After all it was the cliffhanger at the end of Vol. 1. Somehow, I don't believe you when you say that you have never finished Kill Bill Vol. 2. Seeing it and preferring the first installment is one thing, but claiming to not wanting to know the answers to the questions the first film posed is quite another. If you truly liked the first film, then theres no way you wouldn't want to see the conclusion.

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[–] calikidd2k 17 years ago

I don't want to get into this again....

Are actually trying to tell me that you outright refuse to see how she eventually kills him??

Not refused so much as wasn't able... I tried multiple times to finish the movie, but just couldn't.

The amazing scene when Beatrice is locked in the coffin and the audience are forced into severe claustrophobia?

Not very amazing... The Descent's claustrophobia scene was way better.

The brilliant Pai-Mei training sequence?

Cheesy, I'd rather watch a real Hong Kong wire-fu movie

The awesome trailer fight between Beatrice and Elle Driver?

That was okay, but the fights in KB1 were better and it took to long to get to this fight... I only saw it when it was playing on TV one day and I came upon it right at this scene.

The black and white flashback of the Bride's wedding day massacre?

Didn't give a crap anymore.

The fantastic dialogue between Bill and Beatrice at the end (not to mention Bill's CLASSIC Superman vs Beatrice analogy)?

Never made it that far.

Aren't you the least bit interested in seeing if Beatrice gets her daughter back?

No

If you truly liked the first film, then theres no way you wouldn't want to see the conclusion.

Sure there is, I liked "the bride" as a fairly one-dimensional revenge-seeking action heroine... once the second one started getting into more of the backstory and the back and forths between all the bad guys I didn't care anymore. The character development developed the character in a direction that didn't interest me. Loved "The Bride," hated Beatrice.

Now obviously I don't expect you to agree, but do you at least get where I'm coming from? Is it really that hard to accept that someone has different tastes than you?

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[–] nmbnsn 17 years ago

"I remember being with my parents at the theater when I was five years old. They got me up and left the place to go home in the middle of the movie. The movie was "The Man from Snowy River" and I never could understand why they left the theater. I watched the movie later on in life and I thought it was boring but felt like I could sit through it at the theater. I have been to the theater many times and sat through many stanky films and never got up and left. The day I went to see "Ecks vs Sever" was the day I understood my parents and I got up and went home during the movie. This is all have to say so... have a great day... peace."

Oh my gosh! This is exactly how I felt. I have never felt the need to leave a theatre in the middle of a movie, no matter how boring. With "Ecks vs Sever", I felt an extremely, extremely urgent need to leave the cinema. A need that I promptly responded to...

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[–] idol-enderenix 17 years ago

ahhh i know this was a while ago.. but I LOVED THIS MOVIE TOO! :D

not sure why.. it's like 300.. lotta action and no frills :)

people who don't like it are thinking too hard xD

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[–] PenaltyKillah 17 years ago

At least 300 had that oh-so-touching-warrior-plot!

And I don't want any "people who like this need their food privileges taken away" or "people who hate this are gay Iranians". We all have different tastes. Some of us have a short attention span, and can only absorb nothing but action, action, action, without any foundation of plot. (I mean, there's got to be some people who dreamt of a Latino hunk and a Chinese vixen battling each other with automatics!) Then, of course, there are those who want their films to be inspiring, meaningful, family-friendly, or cult-worthy.

But this one doesn't even deserve to be a TV movie. Heck, even High School Musical, with all the disjointed plots and tween-oriented singalongs, has more entertainment value. It should just be an Live Action Short: just extract the fight scenes between Banderas and Liu and make it a short. That's why people like them. No basis of plot, just straight into the climax.

And remember, as our society progresses (for good or/and for worse), more and more varieties of people who enjoy an even wider variety of preferences. There's bound to be someone who thinks that this movie is the perfect one for them.

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