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that you were looking at your watch hoping it was over.

I wish I could remember how many times I did for reference, but there is no way I'm going to replicate the experience just to provide my stats.

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On Netflix someone left a horrible review because they were under the impression that it was a documentary on rivers, tides, erosion, etc. I thought that was odd...and then I came across this thread.
Generally I have a rule about contributing negatively to message boards, but seriously- what the hell is wrong with you people? Do you not know how to read? Do you just rent things based on their title?
I just can't imagine what it's like living in your shoes. Life must be fraught with constant disappointment upon discovering that things aren't always *exactly* as they appear to be on the surface.
Which is ironic since that's one of the themes of Goldworthy's work.
You're an idiot.

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I love you.

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"I rented it, hoping for a description of erosion due to river hydraulics and tidal action. That is what the titles implies to me."

BWAAAHAAHAHAAHAAAA! That is HILARIOUS. Sorry, but really, are you actually, that dim?

"He will probably get arrested for being a pervert."

Umm... what? Why?

Anyway, I didn't look at the time once after we started watching it. My wife and I were channel surfing, looking for something, anything, to watch, and I happened on this movie. We both had an "ehh" reaction and decided to keep looking. Finding nothing else on, we turned back to Rivers and Tides... and watched the entire thing, largely in silence. I thought it was pretty amazing, beautiful, and calming. Sorry not everyone got it.

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i guess you dont know what reading the back of a dvd means

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You obviously haven't the slightest clue as to what Goldsworthy is doing.

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that's hilarious! soil erosion? did you even bother to check what it was about?

i thought it was amazing, i didn't get to finish watching it beacause i saw it at school for one period, but did my best to pretend the bell had not gone so i could keep watching

it didn't work...

I think we should have sex -Placid Lake

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And did anyone who wanted to jump to the defense of either the artist or the art bother to look at the profile of our little provocateur? You's been had. Rather pointlessly, but definitely had!

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What kind of statement is that to make? Apparently you found something in the profile that is not there. Perhaps you have access to chemicals the rest of us do not?

Not sure what you think you saw there buddy but the only one that has been had is you.
And truly if one needs to read a person's profile to understand their comment, it is a pointless comment...

At any rate, there really isn't anyone that could have accidentally watched this thinking it was going to be a description of erosion due to river hydraulics and tidal action. It is what it is, an artist who is truly in touch with nature and natural elements.

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i looked at my watch?

Are you kidding? Never!

I was breathless through nearly all of it. Andy Goldsworthy is one of my favorite artists, and it was a fabulous honor to accompany him, if only through this film, during his creative work.

Lilinah

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I feel sorry for all the Phillistines like you. What would life be without adversity, right?

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whats philistine??

apparently someones been watching the squid and the whale.

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HAHA! Someone in my World Religions class asked the professor why Philistines have a reputation for not liking books and intelligent movies, and I thought "Somebody has seen The Squid and the Whale." Too funny.

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at least 3 times, actually.

"build a stone wall around some trees -- oooh.

throw some snow in the air -- wow.

grind up some red rock and have it paint a river -- amazing.

please...this movie was a piece of pretentious crap."


I don't normally do this, but I 100% agree with this statement. I just watched this in a film class I'm taking at my University, and I practically fell asleep 3 or 4 times during this. I'm all for art and what not, but this was just, for lack of better words, "pretentious crap." All his appreciations for nature one can get out of a wonderful camping trip. The saddest thing is that I think I was the only one in my class who hated it. All these "artsy" folk glorified it. Please. Sure, it had some really cool moments like the ice cicle scene, but this is a guy playing with rocks, people. This documentary could have been told in less than an hour and might have actually been somewhat decent.

Normally I don't care to come into a board and "talk trash" about a film I disliked, but I was curious to see what others have said. For those who like it, good for you, but how the hell you didn't practically fall asleep at least once is a mystery. I couldn't wait until the end.

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Ok, all of you who thought this movie was "pretentious crap" need to see the video "How Art Made the World". It explains how art has influenced EVERY aspect of our lives, from agriculture to politics. I used to be of those people who thought it was all "pretentious crap" until I educated myself as to why humans create art. And, you are not required to like everything you see.

And as to "this guy is just playing with rocks"... all art materials come from the earth, whether it be paint or stone or clay. Goldsworthy simply uses materials directly from nature, without processing it. Sure, you could appreciate nature on a camping trip, but many see the beauty in nature even more profoundly in his work, as it reveals aspects of color and form in a new way.

Frankly, I am surprised at anyone who would be antithetical about art to rent this and then complain. Sound like they just want something pretty to hang on a wall and not look deeper into what it may mean or how it may affect you. Sleepers... AWAKE!

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Not once. LOL.

I was recovering from surgery and needed something that wasn't disruptive to watch and fall asleep to. I couldn't get outside so I brought it in so to speak.

I replayed it a total of five times so that I could say I watched the whole thing. I did in bits and pieces.

It has to be nice to be able to play like that in your own backyard and have people pay for you to play in theirs.

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I don't think you guys appreciate the true meaning of art. Especially when it is inspired by nature and made using only natural materials. For those of you, who rented it and couldn't wait for it to end, you coulda easily stopped it and watch something else. Besides, what do you guys know about art, I bet you the closest you've come to doing something artistic is drawing something with crayons in kindergarten.
I really hate when people start judging other people or their work, when they are nothing but some stupid losers who don't understand the meaning of things. Oh and guess what... he and everyone else don't give a crap about your opinions, because the moment someone start listening to you, they realize you're a big moron! I hope you guys understand that it's easier to find 1,000 defects on somebody else, than to find one on yourself.

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Alright now, here we go. I am in agreement with you. I think it’s a bit silly that if someone doesn’t like the film they are told they are idiots and don’t know anything about art.

1) I deeply appreciate and admire the art that Mr. Goldworthy creates. It speaks to me – honestly it really does.

2) Good artist -- BAD film. It came off as self-important drivel. I mean really. The essence of the wool? The dialog with rocks? It was a boring, pointless, plotless, self indulgent snoozer of a movie. One of the few glimmers of hope was when we saw the real Goldworthy interact briefly with his family; it was in this setting that we truly saw how he incorporated his art into his everyday life. The rest of the film however, read like a stream-of conciseness journal that would have been best left unpublished.

Why can’t some people understand that disliking the film doesn’t not necessarily mean that I dislike his art – or even worse – cannot understand his art.

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I lost count it was so many times.

Mmm..human hair in the walls.

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