The guy from Salems Lot


okay. I was really looking forward to this sequel. I loved the 1st one and the second one put me to sleep and at the ending they cut it off at a really cool point. Now they're seriously going to mess it up by getting some old dude that was the worst vampire ever in Salems Lot to play the Dracula. I'll rent this but I'll have a lot of stuff to say about it after I do.......Stupid old guy.

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stupid old guy? have you even heard of rutger hauer? by god i can't believe how dumb you are. if this board was more active, this post would have been filled with flames. but we all know that the ammount of flames in a post doesn't mean *beep* to the poster.

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YOu fvcking prick, Rutger is a great actor

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You ass. Do you even know who Rutger Hauer is? Come back to Earth, he's one of the best actors ever.

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Clearly, you are a simple-minded teenybopper who rates the ability of actors simply by their appearance. The first two Draculas were horrible, no question about it. Though the first one was much better than the second, Rutger Hauer's performance, while brief, still blew both of them out of the water. Dracula should not look like he belongs in a boy band, this guy in this series has been around since Jesus Christ walked the earth. Getting a blonde-haired pretty boy (ie. Dracula II) was hardly menacing. Face it, you just wanted a hot young guy to play the part so you'd have something to get off on.

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David Soul (Starsky & Hutch fame) is the guy your thinking of, not Rutgar Hauer.

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And Salems was good and Rutger was great in it

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in my opinio ndracula should be sexy to seduce the ladies. but. rutger was still really good. he was by far the best in the series. he was good. nto sexy. but tahst not his acting's fault. and i thought he played the part well, with a good mix or almost everything in a good dracula.

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Bram Stoker's vision of Dracula is as a mean, evil, ugly old barbarian warrior, and a clear metaphor for Death in the collision of the superstitious Old World and the high-tech New Age. Anyone he seduces is literally flirting with Death, and knows it. The idea of Dracula as sexy is a misunderstanding and revisionism of Victorian attitudes probably conceived during the sexual revolution of the 1920's, when Lugosi began playing Dracula on Broadway, and later reinforced by casting such as Frank Langella in the 1970's. Now, you may want a sexy Dracula, but Bram Stoker probably didn't. You could always write your own classic vampire novel.

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I actually thought he mean't the vampire (either Steven Billington, or Rutger Hauer) I don't see David Soul fitting in this discussion, here personally.

Soul (like Lowe) was the hero.

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You people are forgetting that this is the THIRD time Hauer has played Dracula. In Buffy The Vampire Slayer (the movie) he was called Lothos, but he was clearly cast in the image of the big (undead) man himself.

Hauer is like a lot of very good character actors -- great when he is properly cast in a good movie with good direction and terrible in a bad movie with awful direction. He's not so great he can save a piece of garbage by himself (decide for yourselves about this movie, I'm just saying).

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Well... probably, frankcastle14 is too young to know REALLY GREAT actors like Rutger Hauer. Anyway - this is his problems, not our (I bought this movie only because of Rutger)

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C'mon...admit it: you think Butler his hot. That's why you REALLY want him back. Can't be his acting in Dracula 2000. All Butler really did was look pretty. Did he even have lines? *coughs*

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Gerard Butler became a better actor since "Dracula 2000". But in that film he mumbled his allegedly "Romanian accent", and you could barely make out his lines. I had to put on my CC (Closed captioning) button just to even determine that he was saying anything at all!

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"Gerard Butler became a better actor since "Dracula 2000". But in that film he mumbled his allegedly "Romanian accent", and you could barely make out his lines. I had to put on my CC (Closed captioning) button just to even determine that he was saying anything at all!"

I don't know if he was going for a Romanian accent. If he's Judas then he should have... I don't know. Is there such a thing as a Jewish accent? Perhaps an Arabic accent would have been closer to the character than a Romanian accent. I don't know what Butler is actually trying to do, though.

I suppose it doesn't help that there seems to be some strange audio modification every time he speaks. It seems that vampires speak that way; after Mary is turned, she does it too.

Stephen Billington in Dracula II seemed to go more for a Romanian accent. And Rutger didn't even bother trying to do an accent :-p

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Steven Billington is a Shakesperean trained actor. Not only do they normally get the diction correct, as well as the pronounciations, but their voices are more powerful and project louder.

One of Frank Langella's problems in his film version is that when he did his scenes for his film version he projected his voice TOO LOUDLY. As if he was performing on stage. John Badham had to get him to "tone down" his voice. Because he wasn't performing before an audience of 800-1,000 people every night. This was corrected in the finished product. As most of us have by now seen.

That's the kind of Dracula I like.

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"you are insane if u think rutger was half as good as gerard butler."


I didn't say I thought Hauer was half as good as Butler. I said he completely blew him off the map--as in, Butler doesn't even come close. Next time, try watching the movie with your eyes actually open. ;)

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Butler was too much of a pretty boy for me. I kept thinking that any of the female vampires should have been able to slap him around.

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That's funny. I only saw "'Salem's Lot" because of Rutger.

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Rutger has been one of my favorite actors for as long as I can remember. He's just charismatic and interesting in his roles. Frankly the problem is lately he's been hit or miss, I think in a lot of movies he's been trying too hard instead of just letting all his talent take over, who knows? He is getting kind of old. :\ Frankly a lot of movies that sound like garbage I will watch specifically because he's in them. Cult fan base is probably a reason he still gets a lot of roles but anyone who's seen him in some of his great older roles like Batty in Blade Runner or has seen him in The Hitcher will hold him in high esteem and knows he has and can make or break a movie or two.

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I haven't seen this recent Dracula III movie, but in Salem's Lot Hauer made an awesome performance as Barlow. He is great actor.

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Civil war in Romania! =)) Lmfao
and they only show the dacia cars.. not the expensive mercedeses or bmw that fill the streets of major cityes.. you look at this movie you think Romania is a very poor country , that`s why i hate Dracula movies they are *beep* ! it`s only someone`s creepy imagination! actualy the one they called dracula was one of the gr8 leaders very fare and just !.. and had nothing to do with transilvania except a castle =)) anyway nice S.F it`s all S.F i don`t have to teach you history when Romania has buildings older then your whole history :roll: sorry no flames intended!
i`m just pissed off of what immage they have made of my beautyfull country X(
all that aside , real nice movie !

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Wasnt "Dracula" Vlad Tepes?

"also known as Vlad the Impaler"

"Impalement was Dracula's favorite but by no means his only method of torture. The list of tortures employed by this cruel prince reads like an inventory of infernal deeds: nails in heads, cutting off of limbs, blinding, strangulation, burning, cutting off of noses and ears, mutilation of sexual organs (especially in the case of women), scalping, skinning, exposure to the elements or to wild animals, and boiling alive."

fare and just?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_III_Dracula

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It should be noted that "Tepes" is Turkish. ("Dracula" just means Little Dragon".) IOW, "a.k.a. Vlad the Impaler" is what his Turkish enemies called him. If modern politics teaches us anything, it's that people will lie and perpetuate lies for some pretty astonishingly stupid reasons -- why, for example, do we so often hear that Al Gore claimed to have invented the Internet, when he never actually said that, and the statement that he really did make, which was that he saw the potential for ARPANet, and helped get federal funding for it, is the truth. The point is that people will say all kinds of sh*te when the subject is someone they don't like, and truthfulness is often a very low priority.

I don't know whether any of the horror stories told of Vlad are true, but even rulers considered enlightened in his time are said to have done some things we'd consider pretty shocking. It pretty much comes with the job of being a medieval prince. Read up on the death of Edward II of England, for example.

It's also worth noting that many of the horror stories told of Vlad are also told, pretty much word for word, of Ivan the Terrible. You have to figure they can't all be true of both rulers.

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I apologize adamantius. But you are incorrect!

Kaziglu Bey (which is translated as The Impaler Prince) is his name in the Turkish tongue. Tepes (which means "The Impaler") is his name in the Wallachian (not Turkish, but pre-Romanian tongue. Pre-Romanian meaning while Romania was still part of the Austrian-Hungary Empire prior to the end of hostilities in 1918).

Mention his name to Osama bin-Laden and Bin-Laden would be s&#$%ing bricks. To this day his Turkish name inspires fear among the Moslem people. Because of his atrocities towards the Ottoman invaders.

That is why his name is still forbidden to be spoken in the Middle-East (I've been there and I know!)

He is considered the most fierce of all of the "Crusaders" (more-so than his his father Vlad II [Dracul], though technically, now called Vlad III [Dracula] he was never really among them).

It must also be noted that most of the horror stories written about Vlad III were written in the 17th century, almost 100 years after his death, by German woodcutters.

Not as if they didn't have their little "horror stories" that they were responsible for in the mid-20th Century. Now were they?

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lol Rutger Hauer stupid old guy ????
Are you about 14 or 15 years old ?

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The late Reggie Nalder was the only other "Barlow" in "'Salem's Lot", and he was horrific. (Not his part which was a total rip-off of Max Schreck... but a horrible performance. Period).

At least Rutger had some small speaking parts. Instead of grunting.

But "'Salem's Lot" is the sort of film which needs a "big budget Hollywood" treatment. But sadly, probably won't get it.

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Although I loved seeing Rutger in Blade Runner, The Hitcher, and in the medieval adventures Flesh& Blood and Ladyhawke, his performance in this reminded me of his character Lothos from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. He was just as hammy in Buffy, but was even cheesier than he was in this.

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