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Why did Rose have to die?!


Rose was my Absolute Favorite Charater in ths Series, I thought She and Martin were going to be Destined for each Other, but she had to be Killed.

Why?! She was a Great Charater Beauty,Singing Voice and Loyalness and everything a Hero could wish for. Why this Cruel Fate?

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Have you ever read the book series, nicholamcdougall? I think Brian Jacques killed Rose off because not only would it be a good/sad story but that it would make sense with what he had established about Martin's life before he wrote the book "Martin the Warrior." It was already known in the books that Martin showed up in Mossflower alone, and that he never married and had a family.

I think Rose's voice for the series, Lindsey Connell, did a really good job showing her inocence, kindness, and she could show toughness and courage when she needed to. Also, Lindsey has a great singing voice; her version of the "Noonvale" song, in the last episode, was very touching. Lindsey should consider trying to get into musical threatre. Her performance was one of the highlights of the series for me.

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The episode where Rose was killed was the first episode I'd really seen or payed attention to. So I knew how everything ended right off and thus wasn't disappointed, after reading the book, when she died. Besides, almost all stories end where the guy gets the girl! The ending of this story is part of what makes it so unique and beautiful in a different sense, like "Braveheart"-- Martin goes on to do great things for the good of others, never loves any one else, and eventually goes to be with Rose in death. Besides, Martin was a wreckless fighter and Rose was a loving peacemaker-- it's kind of the same idea as Anakin Skywalker and Padme Amidala.
Alright, I'm done rambling

PS: I agree Lindsey's voice was awsome!

sheri!

"To die would be an awfully big adventure..."

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Brian Jacques killed off Rose in the book to make Martin's life more horrible. If you think about it, Grandma mom and dad killed,enslaved as a child, one true love dead. He had a crappy childhood. But when he entered Mossflower and started building the abbey he was very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very veryvery very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very veryvery very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very veryvery very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very veryvery very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very veryvery very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very happy. BJ's trying to show how great the abbey is.

CRITICAL THINKING

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Rose dying is basically the epitome of tragedy. Aristotlean tragedy at least, a very effective tool in story making.

The more the words the less the meaning and how does that profit anyone?

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You should have added more verys to your post

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Martin would not be such as great of a ledgend if he married Rose and had kids,then his family would live on wich wound mean not a good legend.:(

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Yeah I was kinda mad...and sad...about that too...I kinda wonder what would happen if she didn't die...

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Hmmm, you know...I think that, in a way, she really HAD to die. If she'd LIVED then Martin would have gone back with her and lived out the rest of his days in Noonvale...but we know, from the very beginning of the series, that he shows up in Mossflower (ALONE) and finds true happiness after beginning the order of Redwall. So, really, Rose's death is a necessity...she has to die in order to give Martin a reason to go off and seek his true destiny.

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I wish that they hadn't killed off Felldoh. He and Callendine made a very nice couple.

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rose had to die because if she didn't Martin would live with her at Noonvale in piece. Therefore he would never have founded Redwall. It's all that simple really. I know its sad, I cried too, but without her death, there would never be Redwall.

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if rose didnt die then there basically would be no redwall

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I love the Redwall series, I didn't see the cartoons, but I read 9 of the books (still reading some) and I cried in Martin the Warrior (when Rose died), The Legend of Luke (When Sayna -Martin's mother-died) and in Mariel of Redwall. I'll be the first to admit it. I cried a lot, but the series wouldn't be the same if Rose had lived. Or Sayna for the matter

"My soul do I swear for a breeze a gust a whisper a kiss." -Jack Sparrow
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sparra i know i read mariel of redwall *sniffing*
it was good but very tragic

Why is the rum always, always, ALWAYS
gone--- Jack Sparrow

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You should read The Legend of Luke...did anybody else here read that??

"My soul do I swear for a breeze a gust a whisper a kiss." -Jack Sparrow
Redwall<3

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Ramona....Like my knew username??? LateroseXoXo

"That liddle mousey-maid be locked in Marthen's 'eart, and thurr she'm bound to stay."
~Laterose~

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has n e body here read n e of the other books?

I've read

all of them

Salamandastron
Mariel of Redwall
The Bellmaker
Redwall
Martin the Warrior
The Legend of Luke
Mossflower
Mattimeo
Lord Brocktree
Pearls of Lutra
Outcast of Redwall
The Long Patrol
Triss
Taggerung
Marlfox
Loamhedge

"That liddle mousey-maid be locked in Marthen's 'eart, and thurr she'm bound to stay."
~Laterose~

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Such is life.

Or so Jacques would say. :/

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Haha, I remember reading the book now when I was about 11, and that bit was probably the most shocking thing I'd read at the time. I was like, "No, ROSE! It can't be!"

Really, that ending came out of nowhere. Traumatized me.

Contrary to popular belief, it is impossible to overdose on marijuana... though many have tried.

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