Terrible?


I saw this tonight at the St. Louis International film festival, and was excited because the director would be doing a Q&A after the show. However, i ended up leaving right after the credits started.
The premise seemed interesting enough, very cool, actually, but it just turned out terribly. The acting was really atrocious, as well as the "effects" and in general the "stories."
I was waiting for this one to be over 10 minutes after it started. There were a few laughs, but i don't think anything really redeeming.
The worst part were the similarities... to the wanting seed, vanilla sky, blade runner, A. I., etc. Unfortunately, "Robot Stories" shared the greatest likeness with terrible dramatic made-for-tv-movies.
Fortunately I got into this for free, otherwise there would be some real problems.
Did anyone else really just not like this movie at all? I've never walked out of a movie before, but i just felt this was a total waste of time.

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I have only just heard of this but it seems to bear a remarkable similarity in content to "Robot Carnival", one of my favorite Japanse films.

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yes, it's pretty terrible. i just don't agree with all of the rave reviews. i, too had high hopes for this film as a unique moment for asian american narrative cinema in an unusual genre, but i was sorely disappointed. the credits were the first sign of disaster--so corny! i just think what greg pak and his friends think is cute and funny just isn't to me. this film lacks sophistication for taking on such issues as the politics of ethnic identities and sci-fi. so much potential, yet what happenend? also what they think as pathos just completely loses me. i had no patience for this film. i kept waiting for it to say something, anything, of depth or individuality, but it just kept spewing forth unfocused banalities such as: robots lead us toward humanity. ok, but can you give us some more layered narratives around it, some irony, some personal perspective, not some platitudes from other movies and television. dull, dull, dull!

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I saw the movie today at Berkeley and I felt it was one of the best movies I've seen this year. I first saw the trailer months ago and I've been excited about it ever since. I have to say that my expectations were surpassed. Not only did the movie move me emotionally, but they made me laugh as well. I am an American born Asian teen and I'm pretty much whitewashed. While watching the film I didn't really get the sense that race played any major role. I listened after the movie to Greg Pak talk about the whole issue behind the ethnicity of the cast. Basically it's really a movie with a cast that just happens to be asian. I really resent it when somebody makes a movie with an asian cast and they don't mean to address race issues, but somebody out there has to point out asian stereotypes and they end up not appreciating the movie for what it was meant to be. If the cast were all white or all black or jewish or a nice rainbow with everybody represented, it would still have the same meanings and the same emotional themes that touched me. Although, then somebody would still ask why they are white or black or rainbow colored.

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Even though it is a movie that could be done with any cast from any background, I was happy to see that the cast was primarily Asian. However, the one thing that's upsetting is the fact that none of the characters from the second, and I believe best story ("Robot Fixer") appear on the box at all and the main selling point appears to be story three, (my opinion, the worst) with Pak, not only the writer/director but also someone who is either Caucasin or Caucasin in appearance, is on the cover. That could be either his ego, the studio thinking that story was the clincher to get people intrested or just plain racism. Let's sell the movie based on a person who looks white even though the cast is primarily Asian. I realize it shouldn't matter and maybe I'm out of line, but maybe I'm not.

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I couldn't disagree more. I will definately be seeing this movie again. While the stories weren't profound I found them engaging and thought provoking.

I didn't laugh once, it wasn't a comedy! Are you sure you actually saw this movie!?! Perhaps if you did you had geared yourself for a comedy, and just found trouble adjusting to the fact that each of the stories dealt with serious subject matter.

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Hmm, I really hope "Robot Stories" isn't getting high regards solely for the fact that it's done by an Asian director with mostly Asian actors - take away the genetic makeup and there's still some worthwhile themes. I was particularly crushed by the climatic irony in the second story, "Broken Wings," and sympathized with the mother's stubborn defiance of her son's injury beforehand. The alienation between parents and children still happens everywhere. It would have been nice to find out more about Wilson's immersion in his fantasy world, sure. But his mother's inability to realize she could never really connect with her son is something universal, and in that aspect, I felt it wasn't shallow at all.

And in regards to the other stories: "My Robot Baby" was pretty simple but the child treatment issues were really thought-provoking for me, "Machine Love" was more silly than anything but does have a couple nice jabs at the modern yearning for ultra-efficiency, and "Clay," man. Definitely a thought-provoker. Perhaps "Robot Stories" didn't break new grounds, but it does provide a bit of a new way to look at things. I liked the line in the first story, not sure if I'm remembering it correctly: "Children can seem like monsters sometimes"? That was totally new for me.

Also, as an Asian American teenager who has never seen a movie with Asian American leads, it's *nice* seeing Asian American actors who aren't your typical martial arts masters/villains/token-minority-characters-who-get-killed/subordinates/butterfly women/wise natives/FOBs. I don't think "Robot Stories" is a stroke of genius or anything, but it was quite enjoyable to watch regardless of the cast and crew's genes. Not every film featuring a minority has to break phenomenal barriers, but it was definitely a first for me to see Asian Americans just acting in normal roles that could've gone to non-Asians as well. That's something new that I don't think has been done before. Even "Better Luck Tomorrow" had echoes of the stereotypical academic-crazy Asian American student. Perhaps when more people are used to seeing Asian Americans in media roles that aren't race-specific or stereotypical, movies featuring them in their core constituency will be treated just the same as other films. The reviews will still be varied but at least they won't be skewed because of race. :)

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the flick is completely unwatchable. totally inept. in all honesty its probably the worst pos ive seen so far in 2004 next to Torque. I mean good sci-fi usually works on a higher or more encompassing level...this crap doesnt even work as sci-fi or hell even as a basic movie. Premise alone does not make a movie and that's all this is, premise. No tact or skill brought forth at all, no characters, nothing. each story is just an idea spread over 20 minutes with people saying crap based on the idea. Not a single story works and after the first one I was seriously shocked..I honestly didnt think it could get worse. good lord was I wrong. #3 is probably the most pain ive ever felt watching a movie. sadly, this really is only riding the asian cinema buzz and its 7+ score is obvious of that.

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It's interesting that many of the complaints about the movie compare it unfavorably to Asian movies. I don't understand the connection. Other overarching themes of humanity, it seems silly and irrational to assume that there would be similarities in the two. Nobody criticizes Spike Lee's work for not being African enough. It's especially ironic in the face of the fact that Asian Americans are often told that we do not "act American" (meaning "White American").

The reason why there are so few good movies with Asian Americans featured is very clear: Those controlling funding for movies support ACTIVELY racist policies with numbers claiming that Americans are too racist to accept Asian Americans playing 3-dimensional roles. A number of studios were interested in Justin Lin and Eric Byler's films, but they were told that in order to be funded they would have to cast white actors instead of Asian American actors. Even after the financial success of "Better Luck Tomorrow" it's actors are still receiving offers that consist of China Delivery Boys or other stereotypical roles.

I'm glad that people are thinking critically about this movie. I just hope that they utilize the same criticism in addressing movies like "Lost in Translation" and the ethnocentric interpretations that have come out of such works.

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well, i certainly didn't think "Robot Stories" was terrible. some of the characterization was a little two dimensional, but overall i was really impressed, and found it to be enjoyable to watch and thought provoking. certainly better than MOST sci-fi movies put out these days...
i think the real reason this movie is getting a lot of attention and praise is that it does an excellent job of setting up a sci-fi mise en scene with such a low-budget. the production design is well-crafted and subtle, but still very "sci-fi". we don't need to see flying cars and Mars colonies to be convincingly presented a futuristic world of robots...
as for the asian thing, i think this movie really has no message regarding race, other than the fact that it was written/directed by an Asian-American, and most of the cast members aren't white. "Better Luck Tomorrow" was specifically about race, and the fact that there aren't a lot of movies about Asian-American teens is why it got a lot of attention (rightly so, in my opinion)...

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This movie is good for several reasons. One thing I liked about it, is the fact that it was actually four short films featured as one full length feature. It stays away from the formulaic 2 hour feature that has dictated the length of storytelling in film. Not all stories need to be told or should be told in hrs. As far as Robot Stories goes, I agree, they all were not original, but there were some poingant messages overall. The third one, whch a lot of people did not like, is more about control than about machines feeling emotions. Did y'all notice how the co-workers abused and exploited the robots in the workplace whenever they got a chance? This story was not about machines showing humans what humanity is it was showing that humanity sometimes is not a good thing. Humans want control, and that control can be obtained by beliittling others. The second one was actually my favorite. Especially the part when the mother crossed the street and almost got ran over herself. Beautiful. The 4th was my least favorite, but still thought provoking.

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I agree with a few of the above reviewers in saying that I enjoyed this movie, even though it wasn't terribly original. However, I don't think that being "original" should be the sole, or even most important, factor in deciding how good a movie is. The most important thing is that it can really grip you and tug at your heart, and that it can make you think about how you live your own life. Robot Stories accomplishes that with most of its character portrayals.
I especially enjoyed the 2nd story, with the Asian mother who tries to rebuild her son's toy collection. I say "Asian" mother because unlike most of the characters in the movie, who, as someone mentioned before, could be of any color or race, the mother was a very "stereotypical" Asian mother. I don't mean stereotyped in a bad way though, because as a Chinese American, I would have to say that 90% of Asian parents have many traits in common with the mother in the story. The way in which she complains about her son's messy habits and gets angry at him for being in a coma is very typical. Her anger at her son for not turning out as she would have liked only amplifies the boundless love she has for him. That movie short was one of the most touching and heartwrenching pieces I've seen in the past year, and I watch a LOT of movies, both Hollywood and foreign cinema. When I say heartwrenching, I don't mean sobbing in my seat, although that's a possibiltiy for some movies, but I mean in a quiet, reflective way, much like Tokyo Story. Now I'm not comparing Robot Stories to Ozu's work, which is surely one of the best movies, or works of art, ever created. However, I thought the feel of the second short was similar in style, at least.
Sure, the plot may bear uncanny resemblance to a lot of other plots, but that doesn't diminish its power. After all, a lot of great works of art are imitation of other great art: i.e. The Aeneid by Virgil (although I didnt' like it so much), and of course, Ali: Fear Eats the Soul, which was basically a copy of Douglas Sirk's "All That Heaven Allows", although it raised the story to a much higher, deeper plane. Basically, just because a movie contains very often used themes doesn't make it bad or even unoriginal. It's the small thing, the subtelties that count, and this movie has plenty of them. I looved the humor in the third one, "Robot Love", and the first one was quite touching too. Although I liked the last one, I think they tried to get much too philosophical and deep, and ended up draggin it on a bit. Nevertheless, there wasn't a single minute in the movie where I was just utterly bored. Robot Stories does much more than grab your attetention: it grabs at your heart.

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boring lame silly movie
i kept fast forwarding and i couldn't belive how did i end up watching such a movie.
really its so disapponiting

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I think you have to take Robot Stories on its own terms: as a collection of short stories. Think about the great science fiction short stories you've read: Asimov, Bradbury, Philip K. Dick, etc. No one says "well, 'Nightfall' is pretty good, but the characters are 2-dimensional." You approach a sci-fi short story hoping that the story makes you think. What makes good sci-fi isn't the science, it's the fiction.

The four stories in Robot Stories don't have an epic sweep. What they do have is a focus on humanity. What makes us human? Is it memory? Love? Empathy? Yes this an idea that's been considered often in films, and in science fiction films particularly. Pak isn't breaking new ground in that sense. But he's telling stories, stories that use the presence of machines to make us think about what it means to be human.

Of course, if you'd prefer to watch "I, Robot," be my guest.

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I agree that it was terrible, all things considered. It would have been novel about 10 years ago, but now all the ideas have been explored much better by cinema and other media as well. The stories are too unsofisticated and do not go beyond "feel goodyness". I am sure that artsy people who do not follow scientific and technological developments much and who are not really into sci-fi, may be pleasantly surprised and challenged by the ideas in these 4 stories, but for anyone, who have thought about these issues 10 years ago and have since moved on, these stories do not offer anything other than cheesy effects and lame acting.

The first story has an interesting premise - a couple has to adopt a baby robot for a month as a test for their ability to adopt a human baby, but it really doesn't add anything to what was already covered in depth in Spielberg's A.I. and it also looks *beep* compared to an A-movie sci-fi such as A.I.

The second story isn't really a science fiction film at all and is virtually content-free. The main idea is that it's sucks when your son lies brain-dead in a coma and you need to give doctors a permission to pull out the plug. Well, yes, indeed it sucks, but in what unique way does the story explore this problem?

The third story is funny and even nice in some ways. It has some semi-interesting ideas about the future, but the overall message is pathetic - robots need some love too. Once again, there is nothing that wasn't said in, say, Bicentennial Man. And once again, the effects are non-existent and there is no depth.

The fourth story is the most ambitious of all, and it probably fails less dramatically than others. But it still fails. May be the director had some deep message that he wanted to put there, but he probably forgot. Again, there isn't much in terms of original ideas - deathism, senile dementia and irrational stupidity. May be the viewers are expected to emphatise with that old loser, I don't know... But I certainly didn't.

Overall these films are probably worthless to a sci-fi fan. However, to a casual viewer, who lived in a cage for the last decade and was not exposed to even the simpliest ideas about the future through Internet or magazines such as Wired, SciAm, Pop. Mech. etc., would probably enjoy these (especially if he's into independent Asian films). There is also some hope for Greg Pak, seeing as he is in the very beginning of his directing career. Hopefully, he will tackle these ideas better in the future. And it's also nice to see such interest to sci-fi themes among the juries. Although many mainstream Hollywood sci-fi films (that Pak ripped off so poorly) deserve all these awards much more.

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You say theyre worthless to a sci fi fan, but you should be more specific. A sci fan who has to compare everything they see with everything they've ever seen.

Take this movie on it's own rather then compare and maybe you wont go into it expecting it to fail.

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Oh. My. God.

This was awful. Just plain awful. It reeked of amateur techniques and once you turn on the DVD director's commentary, pretentiousness.

The acting was terrible (especially in Robot Baby), the cinematography was mediocre at best, the script was laughable (and apparently it won two best screenplay awards????) and directing? I didn't see any!

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"... to a casual viewer, who lived in a cage for the last decade and was not exposed to even the simpliest ideas about the future through Internet or magazines such as Wired, SciAm, Pop. Mech. etc., would probably enjoy these (especially if he's into independent Asian films)..."

so... one would only like this movie is he (or she) were an Asian retard who just happens not to read the science magazines that every other person in the entire literate world does?

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garbage.
all asian american film-makers should watch this and ask the question, "why does asian american cinema suck?"
maybe they will learn not to make the same mistakes.

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I agree... terrible, terrible movie.

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Get off of this asian-american crap. Are you seriously telling me that you would have thought this film to be better if a person of another race made the same exact thing. Take your horse-blinders off and see the director for what he is in this project, a director, writer and actor.

This is more thought provoking than just about all movies in the theatres rioght now. If you do not like to think about films you are watching, and just want mindless entertainment then you will have no problem finding such a movie. Crappy, mindless entertaining movies are a dime a dozen. Films such as Robot Stories are unique and rare in that they provoke the audience to think and discuss the material at hand.

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I didn't think it was terrible but I also thought it was a bit pretenious. The first two stories where great, the third was terrible and the fourth was good.

The second, which had little or nohting to do with robots or sci-fi, was I think the best. The acting was great and even though it was short, I really got into the story and really cared about this woman and her son. It had it's moments of cringing, however (Did we have to add that she was "just like her son" comment?) but overall, it was great piece. I think the Pak, who apprently writes a lot of these short movies and has been getting awards for it, will prove himself as a great director/writer of indie movies but maybe he should stay away from acitng. I thought the acting and stories were great except for the third piece. Pak wasn't awful as a robot but all the characters were so wooden (was that the point?) that you didn't care that they hated him!

I think the movie had a lot of heart and while it might not have been all thtat original, I think it does a great job of showing a lot of themes through "robots". I would recommend it and am glad I rented it.

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Not a terrible film just a highly overrated film that in the future will continue to be overrated....

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can't put in words how good this movie is.

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I thought the film was overrated. I only liked the Robot Love segment. Writer/director, Greg Pak plays the robot lead. It was kinda cute although a bit self indulgent. I read that it was Pak's intention to use Eurasian actors (like himself) in the role of robots in that particular story (whereas human portrayed by caucasian and asian actors). According to an interview Pak gave for AsianConnections, "...he portrayed robots of the future with Eurasian-looking Hapas because he noticed that Japanese Anime characters and mixed-race fashion models tend to idealize the mixed race aesthetic."

Strength of mind, force of will...

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I liked everything about the DVD.. just got it.

First story was about life.. The last about death.

The director/writer needs a contract. We need more from this guy!

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I agree, I thought it was delightfull. Not really SF but that was not the point.

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