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Harry Potter is a Christian.

posted 17 years ago by FedRev
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It seems to me that Harry is a very christian character. He is selfless, caring, brave, willing to sacrifice himself for others, doesn't try to take advantage of his powers for personal gain... you could even argue that he is supposed to represent Jesus as a sort of "chosen one" who will save the world from evil. And despite all that, we see angry christians wanting to burn the books simply because they have to do with witchcraft. Why can't they look at the message of the story and judge it based on that rather than simply crying "witch!"?

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[–] nowimgrumpy 17 years ago

It seems to me that Harry is a very christian character. He is selfless, caring, brave, willing to sacrifice himself for others, doesn't try to take advantage of his powers for personal gain...

He even celebrates Christmas but since the people railing against HP haven't read the books or seen the movies they wouldn't know that.

you could even argue that he is supposed to represent Jesus as a sort of "chosen one" who will save the world from evil.

I don't like that arguement but I don't have a counter-arguement. It's just a gut reaction.

And despite all that, we see angry christians wanting to burn the books simply because they have to do with witchcraft.

IMHO, HP hasn't anything to do with witchcraft, at least not the type Christians mean. It's fantasy magic not witchcraft as spoken about in the Bible. Of course, those who go around burning books they've never read will not be persuaded by this or any other arguement.

Why can't they look at the message of the story and judge it based on that rather than simply crying "witch!"?

Because they're ignorant, brainwashed zombies that can't think for themselves.

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[–] jesse859 16 years ago

you could even argue that he is supposed to represent Jesus as a sort of "chosen one" who will save the world from evil.

Wow, statements like that really show that the world today is indeed being prepared for a false Christ, "with all power, signs, and lying wonders" (2 Thessalonians 2:9).

Thanks for confirming the signs of the times.

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[–] jar-jar-stinks 16 years ago

how could god give us free will and also know and dictate the future, it's one or the other, you can't have both. So please explain which one is true and which is a lie, if not both.

I am no believer myself but if you are going to bait Christians with logic at least make sure you get it right. Knowing the future is not the same as dictating it, and nowhere in Christian or Jewish texts is it claimed that God dictates the future.

Your argument attempts to attribute temporal attributes to an atemporal idea or being. If God exists beyond the constraints of linear time, then the temporal terminology used by you is meaningless when applied to him: God doesn't need to know any event "before" it happens but rather is capable of knowing/experiencing it "while" it happens, since God’s knowledge extends beyond linear time. In that case, God would appear (from a temporal perspective) to know an event before it happens.

Another counter-argument to the your argument is that God’s knowledge is a result of the free-will agent's choice, not the cause of it, and therefore no contradiction exists (whether God is temporal or atemporal).

A very good book to read on the subject of whether there is a God or not is "Why I am not a Christian" by Bertrand Russell. Far better than the embarrassing rant "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins.

[–] audree7593 16 years ago

Good point. Witchcraft/sorcery are anathema to the Lord.

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[–] audree7593 16 years ago

Of course it's fiction. But it's depicting witchcraft and sorcery as acceptable things to do, which is contrary to what the Bible says about them. And children and young people are impressionable; they don't always draw a distinction between fiction and real life. This is not a problem for people who don't take the Bible seriously, but is a problem for those who do.

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[–] audree7593 16 years ago

The Bible commands Christians not to be conformed to this world, but to be transformed by the renewing of our minds. In both the Old and New Testaments, witchcraft and sorcery are condemned - all the way to the very last book, the Revelation of Jesus Christ. Whether children are born into witchcraft or whether they learn it later, any aspect of the occult is abomination in God's sight, and we are not to treat something so lightly or be entertained by something which He hates.

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[–] audree7593 16 years ago

God has made it clear in His Word that witchcraft and sorcery are abomination in His sight. As much as we might like to believe otherwise, that is the fact.

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[–] audree7593 15 years ago

Even if paganism were older than Christianity (which traces its roots back to "In the beginning..."), what does that have to do with what I said?

God has made it clear in His Word that witchcraft and sorcery are abomination in His sight. As much as we might like to believe otherwise, that is the fact.

[–] mrguy123 15 years ago

Anyone who actually believes in witchcraft and sorcery is a fool. I don't even understand how you can believe that casting spells and making magic potions is real. Where would they get this source of power? Why does God give them the power of magic and not anyone else? Harry Potter is a harmless fiction book and you, audree7593, are a disgusting hypocrite. God said witchcraft is an abomination. Okay. He also said working on the Sabbath was. He also said shellfish was. He also said selling your daughter was okay. Why don't we do this stuff today? Oh that's right, because you pick and choose.

[–] audree7593 15 years ago

You're certainly entitled to your opinions - and that's fine, as long as you remember they are just that.

Evidently you are not aware that the ceremonial laws of Moses were fulfilled in the life, death, and resurrection of Christ Jesus - which is why Christians are not bound to them today. However, the law of God regarding witchcraft/sorcery has not changed; it is the same through the New Testament.

"God who gave us life gave us liberty. Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever." -- Thomas Jefferson

[–] mrguy123 15 years ago

you could even argue that he is supposed to represent Jesus as a sort of "chosen one" who will save the world from evil.

Correct. I would say Harry Potter is definitely an allegory to Christ.

[–] pintSizeSlasher 15 years ago

Why do we even have to relate Harry Potter to Christianity? Why do all these people try to "find God" in Harry Potter?

Leave the story alone and let it be Harry Potter. People waste time arguing whether its good or bad, Christian or Satanic.

I am a Christian and I have never read a better series of books than these. I take it for what it is--a freaking story.

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