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Spinoff series just announced...

posted 7 years ago by bigwheels-38341
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Raven just announced on The View that she's going to be playing Raven Baxter again in a spinoff series of the show. She's going to be a single mother with 2 kids, one of which has visons. I hope it's as good as the original show & other cast members return. She announced that she will have leave The View later this year to work on the series with Disney.

[–] catarinaloss 7 years ago

PSYCHED for this. I'd be shocked if Kyle and Anneliese didn't come back at some point- they still seem to be close with Raven. Orlando, on the other hand, has issues to take care of. Hopefully this show will make up for the embarrassing first attempt of A Spinoff Which Shall Not Be Named.

I also hope Michael Poryes will be working on this...he doesn't seem to have anything going on. Unless he's retired now.

[–] Acceler8 7 years ago

Interesting. I wonder if they'll cover some of the issues she talks about on The View.

[–] Dani09 7 years ago

Her comments on the view is exactly why parents won't let their kids watch the spinoff.

[–] Manna-Fest 7 years ago

Hey, don't be hating on "Cory in the House". That show was good and it's a shame it didn't succeed and continue on to be as big and popular as this show. That show that had a lot of potential of doing good and had a really good premise.

As for Orlando, he has to be on this show. On "That's So Raven" it's established that Raven and Eddie get together and have a family. It wouldn't make sense for Raven to be with some one else at this point just ten years after the events of that show.

[–] catarinaloss 7 years ago

As for Orlando, he has to be on this show. On "That's So Raven" it's established that Raven and Eddie get together and have a family. It wouldn't make sense for Raven to be with some one else at this point just ten years after the events of that show.

I don't know eager Disney would be to bring Orlando back with his recent legal troubles still looming over him. And, anyway, Raven is going to be a divorcee.

[–] Manna-Fest 7 years ago

What legal stuff has Orlando been apart of? I have to look back at that episode to see just how old their characters' kids are in the future. Hopefully the kids on the new show are older so then we don't have errors and it's still established that Eddie is the dad.

[–] ERThree 7 years ago

Hey, don't be hating on "Cory in the House". That show was good and it's a shame it didn't succeed and continue on to be as big and popular as this show. That show that had a lot of potential of doing good and had a really good premise.

Sorry bud, but Cory in the House was terrible television. Aside from the fact that it contained the most unrealistic premise of any non-fantasy sitcom ever, the show suffered from bad writing, ridiculously hammy overacting (especially from Kyle Massey, which is shocking because he was a surprisingly exceptional child actor on That's So Raven; I guess that just proves that Cory Baxter worked much better as a supporting character only), and extremely low production values. I'm actually surprised that show managed to last a season-and-a-half, and it really says it all when the memes that came out of Cory in the House are much funnier than almost anything that occurred on the show itself.

On "That's So Raven" it's established that Raven and Eddie get together and have a family.

No, it wasn't. Raven had plenty of visions that never came true, and that could have very easily been one (or two) of them.

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[–] ERThree 7 years ago

No it wasn't, but you are a terrible and have no clear taste of good quality TV shows so shut up.

That insult was uncalled for.

You only hate it because it starred a black boy. Well you're racist and need books thrown at you ugly ass head.

WOAH, jumping to conclusions, are we? For the record, I think That's So Raven was a much better show than Cory in the House, and That's So Raven had twice as many African-American cast members.

How was the premise unrealistic? Even if it was, you do know this is FICTION right? Not reality? Do you believe psychics are real because if not then you should be feeling the same way about this show too since it show-cased a psychic. But you're not complaining over that are you?

You obviously missed the term "non-fantasy sitcom" in my post, which is why I didn't chastise That's So Raven for being unrealistic; Raven being psychic was obviously a fantasy element. Despite Cory in the House having no fantasy elements (excluding Raven's guest appearance), the depiction of the White House in the show was incredibly unrealistic, as was the President's personal chef living in there. Keep in mind that this was a show for children, too, so making the White House look like a mansion probably isn't sending out the best message for young viewers.

The writing was fine, the acting was fine, and if it's a little overreacting so what? I's typical Disney comedy and it's probably not even all that bad as you're making it out to be.

I disagree, but if you enjoy it, good for you.

The show was good, that's why it lasted this long but just not long enough. Seems like Disney wanted to focus on more girl-oriented shows, which most of them tended to be over the next decade, so they went and ditched this show for something to accommodate that.

...Or the ratings for Cory in the House were too low to justify continuing the series, as that's how the television industry works.

You say "no it wasn't" like you're so sure it wasn't the actual future and then say "could have been" as though it's merely a possibility, like which is it dude?

Now you're just putting words into my mouth. What I was saying is that it wasn't ESTABLISHED that Raven and Eddie got together, which is the claim that you made. It's possible that it happened, but since Raven's visions are occasionally completely false, we don't know for a fact if they actually ended up together or not (perhaps the spin-off will answer that).

[–] Manna-Fest 7 years ago

That insult was uncalled for.

So what your comment and you were giving me some attitude to so I was only slapping back at you your own medicine, so take it and let it suck your life dry.

WOAH, jumping to conclusions, are we? For the record, I think That's So Raven was a much better show than Cory in the House, and That's So Raven had twice as many African-American cast members.

Well apparently seem to favor black females than you do black males. 

You obviously missed the term "non-fantasy sitcom" in my post, which is why I didn't chastise That's So Raven for being unrealistic; Raven being psychic was obviously a fantasy element. Despite Cory in the House having no fantasy elements (excluding Raven's guest appearance), the depiction of the White House in the show was incredibly unrealistic, as was the President's personal chef living in there. Keep in mind that this was a show for children, too, so making the White House look like a mansion probably isn't sending out the best message for young viewers.

You really think kids care how big the damn building is or important they display the size right? "Oh no! They're going to make the kids believe the white house is smaller than it actually is! Some one call the FEDS!" Like really? You're being silly. This is TV, not an actual documentary look on the white house. Perhaps in the world of the show the thing is smaller. Suspend your belief. You do realize this show is filmed in a STUDIO right? There's only so much space they can use to get a real good white house display and it's not like they ventured to every damn room in the house anyway so there is no problem here. And what is the harm in the children believing the white house is a mansion? It pretty much IS a mansion as there are actual mansions that are the size of the white house so that's really no problem if some one were to take it as a mansion.

I disagree, but if you enjoy it, good for you.

It'll be a lot better if you enjoyed it too. Why the beef? Just why? This show does not deserve your hatred at all.

...Or the ratings for Cory in the House were too low to justify continuing the series, as that's how the television industry works.

Disney channel ratings for shows in general are typically low. The ratings for this show couldn't have been that bad to where they had to cancel it. The ratings were probably okay enough to keep the show going longer. They at least could have given the second season a full amount of episodes.

Now you're just putting words into my mouth. What I was saying is that it wasn't ESTABLISHED that Raven and Eddie got together, which is the claim that you made. It's possible that it happened, but since Raven's visions are occasionally completely false, we don't know for a fact if they actually ended up together or not (perhaps the spin-off will answer that).

I'm not putting words in your mouth. I'm going off by what you're saying. You said one thing like you're so sure and then took a half step back saying it's merely a possibility. Yes, Raven's visions don't always come true but that vision is meant to be something that was TO happen. It established they were going to get together and things would be fine. I'm only going off by what this vision is saying that Raven even accept that the episode itself leaves off on the vibe so so this is not something I'm pulling out of my head here. You don't want to accept it fine, but don't act like it can't be the case or isn't the case off the bat.

[–] ERThree 7 years ago

So what your comment and you were giving me some attitude to so I was only slapping back at you your own medicine, so take it and let it suck your life dry.

I'm sorry if my initial response came across as abrasive to you, but I didn't need to resort to a personal attack like you did. That's why your low blow was uncalled for.

Well apparently seem to favor black females than you do black males.

Gender and race has nothing to do with me favoring That's So Raven over Cory in the House. Not only did you make another unnecessary personal attack against me, but you also made a statement about me that obviously isn't true.

And what is the harm in the children believing the white house is a mansion? It pretty much IS a mansion as there are actual mansions that are the size of the white house so that's really no problem if some one were to take it as a mansion.

Children are easily influenced and may not be able to discern the difference between the luxurious White House in Cory in the House versus the frantic building it actually is in real life. There's nothing wrong with unrealistic elements in sitcoms if the target demographic can tell the difference: The main character on Frasier is a regional talk radio host who spends a ton of money on luxurious items with his income from the job, but that's not as bothersome because that show is geared towards adults that know how fictitious his salary for the job is in addition to his spending habits. The target demographic for Cory in the House could easily be misled into believing that the President of the United States lives a life of luxury because they're not necessarily old enough to make that distinction (and the fact that the show is live action isn't helping matters, either).

It'll be a lot better if you enjoyed it too. Why the beef? Just why? This show does not deserve your hatred at all.

Because I thought the show was incredibly weak, and I explained why in my initial response. Again, good for you if you like it, but can't you accept the fact that someone can have a different opinion from yours?

Disney channel ratings for shows in general are typically low. The ratings for this show couldn't have been that bad to where they had to cancel it. The ratings were probably okay enough to keep the show going longer. They at least could have given the second season a full amount of episodes.

But they didn't, which means that the ratings for Cory in the House were probably really low even by Disney Channel standards.

You don't want to accept it fine, but don't act like it can't be the case or isn't the case off the bat.

What I'm saying is that it could be the case, but it can't be fully proven (until this spin-off premieres, at least) that it actually was the case (which is what you were claiming). How much clearer could I make this sound?

[–] Manna-Fest 7 years ago

I'm sorry if my initial response came across as abrasive to you, but I didn't need to resort to a personal attack like you did. That's why your low blow was uncalled for.

Well it was abrasive and you deserved everything you got. Be happy I didn't go worst on you and kept it simple. Didn't think I needed to go any more than that. 

Gender and race has nothing to do with me favoring That's So Raven over Cory in the House. Not only did you make another unnecessary personal attack against me, but you also made a statement about me that obviously isn't true.

Whatever. Keep denying it. Perhaps you hated Cory because it was mostly MALE dominated. You're probably some women who felt cheated a spinoff about females would turn the other cheek on you. You're just on a roll with this are you? You need help. Just any excuse to hate this precious spinoff. Tsk. Tsk.

Children are easily influenced and may not be able to discern the difference between the luxurious White House in Cory in the House versus the frantic building it actually is in real life.

Well no one is asking them to think any way on the white house. They're meant to be focused on Cory and his crazy shenanigans, not trying to worry about the white house and all those presidential matters and the size of the place. The kids will grow up and learn more about it in history class and not complain about how this TV show made it seem smaller than it was, especially if they understand the show is in a studio and only have so much space to display things. Anyone who does complain is just being silly and ludicrous. Were you one of these people? Why are you even so concerned like it's such a big deal?

Because I thought the show was incredibly weak, and I explained why in my initial response. Again, good for you if you like it, but can't you accept the fact that someone can have a different opinion from yours?

Hell no. Like the show, OR ELSE. I do not play when it comes to people disliking or even HATING what I like, especially if I think it can still be tolerable to you even if I like it much more to see it more than tolerable. You can't even like it a little bit? That's insane 

But they didn't, which means that the ratings for Cory in the House were probably really low even by Disney Channel standards.

I really don't see why. Perhaps Disney failed to market the show properly. They did span the second season of thirteen episodes over a whole freaking year which is ridiculous. That's enough to get some one to lose interest.

What I'm saying is that it could be the case, but it can't be fully proven (until this spin-off premieres, at least) that it actually was the case (which is what you were claiming). How much clearer could I make this sound?

The Raven episode made it seem like it was the case. That's what I'm going by. Duh. It was technically established. Could it change? Perhaps, but until that happens that future is what stands to be the case now. What part of that do you not understand?

[–] ERThree 7 years ago

Well it was abrasive and you deserved everything you got.

No, I didn't. I would have deserved it if I had criticized you for liking Cory in the House, but I didn't, because I can respect the fact that other people can have a different opinion. All I did was state my opinion about the show and you attacked me. Even if the first sentence sounded a little harsh, what I said was nowhere near as repulsive as what you said.

Whatever. Keep denying it. Perhaps you hated Cory because it was mostly MALE dominated. You're probably some women who felt cheated a spinoff about females would turn the other cheek on you. You're just on a roll with this are you? You need help. Just any excuse to hate this precious spinoff. Tsk. Tsk.

I'm actually male, so way to make yourself look stupid (and yes, you deserved that).

Well no one is asking them to think any way on the white house. They're meant to be focused on Cory and his crazy shenanigans, not trying to worry about the white house and all those presidential matters and the size of the place. The kids will grow up and learn more about it in history class and not complain about how this TV show made it seem smaller than it was, especially if they understand the show is in a studio and only have so much space to display things.

Fair enough.

Hell no. Like the show, OR ELSE. I do not play when it comes to people disliking or even HATING what I like, especially if I think it can still be tolerable to you even if I like it much more to see it more than tolerable. You can't even like it a little bit? That's insane

If you can't accept the fact that not everybody can like what you like, then you obviously haven't been out in the real world for very long.

For the record, Cory in the House is not the worst show I've ever seen. It's not even the worst show I've seen from the Disney Channel. I can acknowledge that Cory in the House does have some redeeming qualities (going off my memories of seeing the show in first-run, most of the episodes were at least watchable from beginning to end, Madison Pettis and Jake Thomas did the best they could with the two-dimensional characters they were given, and the episode where Raven guest starred was enjoyable), but in my opinion, the bad far outweighs the good.

Could it change? Perhaps

That's exactly the point I was trying to make.

[–] Chris0290 7 years ago

No he doesn't need to be on the show. Just because they were friends in high school doesn't mean they are still friends. Lots of people break off after high school.

[–] magnusplin 7 years ago

Anneliese NEEDS to be in the spinoff at some point. She's been out of the spotlight too long, and this would be just the thing to get her some well-deserved fame. The girl is too talented not to share her gifts with the world.

[–] stefanheikel 7 years ago

^^^Absolutely. It's also a shame that the That's So Raven movie never happened.

[–] Manna-Fest 7 years ago

Screw the movie, we have a WHOLE SHOW happening now to continue things! That's more of a treat than a simple movie. 

[–] ofuoku71 7 years ago

I don't like the concept of the spinoff, but I am glad that Raven will be back on Disney Channel again.

[–] Manna-Fest 7 years ago

What don't you like about the concept? I'm also happy she'll be back on Disney and hopefully it lives up to the expectations of this show and provide the drama and serious moments this show displayed such as a racism and smoking episodes. Disney has gotten too light and pretty and avoided displaying actual heavy topics in their shows. "Girl Meets World" should have been the trigger for Disney to go back to their early days being a sequel to "Boy Meets World" in all which did touch on quite a bit of heavy stuff since it aired on ABC and wasn't exactly a Disney show, but it's too Disney-fied and the show makes a big deal out of the lousiest issues the writers try to come off as heavy. It's hard to even believe they're connected. This Raven spinoff needs to make up for GMW's failure to allow Disney to produce shows that touch on serious topics and it's not so goofy, bright, and ridiculous.