Did Any Women Like This Movie? - Roger Dodger (2002) Discussion

[–] ryanyunryan 16 years ago

I'm woman, 47, and enjoyed the movie immensely. Granted Roger is a detestable character, there was still something likeable in him - he told women the truths which they did not care to hear. And he does develop over the course of time and through his nephew Nick eventually realizes the emptiness and desperation driving his life.

BTW Dylan Kidd is a gifted and insightful director. I came to this film by way of P.S. which is one of the most sensitive films about women in their 40s.

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[–] helenchelfat 16 years ago

I adored it and I'm, 32. I think it was very clever and original and whilst Roger had an apopalling attitude there was something deeply appealing and intriguing about him. I'd say most of Rogers's hunches about the various women he encounters were probably right! The 2 lead actors were brilliant.

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[–] Yinky 16 years ago

I thought this was a fantastic movie. Roger getting served his own bile. Outstanding.

I also liked the representation of his callousness, and also his--however momentary--vulnerability. It can't always be one way, even for those who think they have it all figured out. Guys like Roger won't ever have a real epiphany, but they do get b*tch-slapped once in a while. I appreciated the opportunity to see it.

From your post "any women over the age of 16"--I gather you think this is a teen-flick movie, or something? Ala, Sixteen Candles, The Breakfast Club? I have a hard time believing any teenager would find this movie even remotely interesting. Why did you post that, just out of curiosity?

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[–] Nikon11 16 years ago

I think that it's a movie that a lot of women would like - where a habitual ladies-man and smooth-talker gets some of his own treatment.

We're seeing a guy who's been shaken off his game. He'll most like recover and go back to his usual way - but for the moment, he's showing his vulnerability and real feelings.

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[–] lifeoner 16 years ago

I was wondering the same thing myself...
This film's "demographic" is certainly more in line with people in their late-20's & up.

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[–] Devans00 16 years ago

I'm a woman above 16 and I liked it. For no other reason than it gave me a point of view into someone I've never met and wouldn't get a chance to know otherwise. I didn't like Roger for most of the movie, but I don't have too.

To say that I don't hang out in the same circles as Roger (or Sophie or Andrea) is the understatement of the decade. But that's why I watch movies.

No two persons ever watch the same movie.

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[–] brandon1866 12 years ago

I use to work at a video store, I once recommended this movie to a woman, upon returning it, she didn't like it, said she "didn't get it".

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[–] asia-13 12 years ago

I LOVE IT! I may be bias since I find Campbell Scott's voice intoxicatingly attractive. But I digress. LOL.
I'm a 25 yr old, Asian mixed (off the market) female who goes clubbing w her single girlfriends every other wknd. I thought the film told the truth!

Women ARE insecure, fragile, sometimes manipulative creatures. We want a man who can talk to us like equals, yet show us they GET the facade we broadcast to the world. It's the EXACT reason we love 'Bad Boys', because sometimes they seem to be the only guys who can see through us. It may not be healthy but it's a fact.

Here's a tip:
If a guy could ever figure out how to be a 'Bad Boy', yet sensitive and listen to what a woman wants not just emotionally but SEXUALLY.
HE WOULD BE UNSTOPPABLE.

[Bad Boy: a man who isn't a push-over & embraces his manhood by taking care of his responsibilities and financial duties. Think of Don Draper from Mad Men -- minus the 24/7 smoking & booze. He knows who he is as a person and nothing else matters. Also, good as hell in bed. LOL!]

"When Im Good, Im very Good. But When Im Bad Im better." -Mae West

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[–] Ithilfaen 12 years ago

We want a man who can talk to us like equals, yet show us they GET the facade we broadcast to the world. It's the EXACT reason we love 'Bad Boys', because sometimes they seem to be the only guys who can see through us. It may not be healthy but it's a fact.

Maybe it's a fact for you. I think you're generalizing though. If that makes you feel better, it's fine but you shouldn't speak for everyone else. I personally find Don Draper boring and unattractive. And arrogance doesn't mean good in bed. You should stop buying into the BS you see on tv.

My answer to the OP. I'm 38 and a woman and I love the movie. I don't even mind Roger because his assholiness is only a facade he pulled to deal with his insecurities and disappointments. I love complex characters, not superheroes who "get everything right" so it's always a pleasure watching movies that don't treat their leads as if they were Jesus Christ or something.
I also found his relationship with Nick touching. He obviously had his own issues with his father and he falls short as a father figure but he catches himself before things get ugly. An interesting progression.

For every lie I unlearn I learn something new - Ani Difranco

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[–] Mandy_Whitsands 11 years ago

*completely agreeing with every word you just said*

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[–] Mandy_Whitsands 11 years ago

hi. I was once like you, with an unexplainable crush on bad girls. It was like my brain told me that they are no good for me, but my heart fell for them anyway. Needless to say, that none of those relationships was somewhere close to fulfilling or at least positive - quite to the contrary: I suffered a lot and repeatedly. And one day I realized, that this "bad girl" thing (luckily) didn't work for me anymore ... I kind of really had enough of that sh!t. I realized that I wanted to be happy, I was tired of the games they played and tired of the tears and I realized that I just wanted someone nice and adorable (and that by no means means someone boring). I honestly think it's a matter of personal development and evolution ... until your heart realizes, too, that nothing (or not much) good comes of bad persons. I completely lost interest in these type of relationships.

BTW, you have a very strange definition of "bad boy" (because there is neither anything bad in it -literally- nor is it remotely consistent with the bad boy cliché commonly accepted).

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[–] WittySarcasm 12 years ago

I'm 27 and I thought the movie was pretty good.

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[–] Mandy_Whitsands 11 years ago

I was just curious to see if any women over the age of 16 liked this movie.

7666 Males: 7.1
937 Females: 6.6
8 Aged under 18: 4.0

there you have it :-)

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