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liberal bull

posted 16 years ago by courtjes
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Mandatory sentences work. And movies playing on emotion like this one dont change the real world of drug dealers ruining the lives of children and other vulnerable people in our society.

Judges were too lenient with druggies so Congress said if its proven beyond a reasonable doubt, then mandatory jail time.

What can you expect from Lifetime, though? Liberal writers and Hollywood hypocrites who crawl from rehab to rehab.

The real world has some nasty people. Thank you Congress for standing up for the rights of law abiding children.

This movie is laughable.

[–] gusmovies 16 years ago

While I agree that drug dealing is a huge problem, it seems to me that this movie is trying to demonstrate that these laws are misdirected and misguided. How does putting an innocent woman away for 20 years help curtail drug dealing? You're right that there are some nasty people in the world, but the woman portrayed in this movie wasn't one of them.

[–] dan-800 15 years ago

Haven't seen the movie, but Mandatory Minimums are RACIST and UNJUST - whether you're liberal or not. In fact, it should be MORE offensive to people who are conservative and don't want the federal government mandating what should be handled on a case by case basis. What's the point of having Judges?

Again, can't comment on the movie. It might be liberal garbage, I have no idea. But Mandatory Minimums ARE garbage. Period.

[–] Catnip86 14 years ago

How are mandatory minimum sentences "racist"? It does not matter what race you are, the penalty is the same. Equal penalty for an equal offense. Nothing racist about that.

[–] Ithilfaen 11 years ago

Yeah they work. You only have to see the results: more people in jail on drug charges than in any country in the world... and drugs basically disappears from the streets. Oh no wait...

For every lie I unlearn I learn something new - Ani Difranco

[–] cookiela2001 10 years ago

Mandatory sentences work. And movies playing on emotion like this one dont change the real world of drug dealers ruining the lives of children and other vulnerable people in our society.

How would these laws intimidate someone out of, say, taking a message for a boyfriend if they don't know the laws exist?

I, for instance, had never heard there were (or once were) laws like this on the books.

And how expensive is it to secure non-violent convictees like this for decades??

Plus, removing (benign) parents from a family does not create a stable household....and the trickle=down effect of this is not only bad for the economy, but for the public mental/physical health...which then puts a huge strain on government resources as people have to access public resources.

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[–] SSteveL 9 years ago

Mandatory sentences work.

Injustice is injustice.

... drug dealers [ruin] the lives of children and other vulnerable people in our society....

It is wrong for the state to ruin the lives and families of people unjustly imprisoned.

Judges were too lenient with druggies [...]

Nobody can rightfully prevent an adult from ingesting drugs. In addition, organized crime is an unintended result of prohibition. Moreover, the "war on drugs" has diminished the freedoms of all citizens.

The real world has some nasty people. Thank you Congress for standing up for the rights of law abiding children.

You have it backwards: the nastiest people work for the state. The state violates human rights by its very existence (e.g., taxation/robbery; legislation is enforced by violence; warfare; slavery/conscription).

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