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aestetisation of a rather ugly culture


I'm prolly gonna get flame for this, but this is a third or fourth movie I saw that makes those aboriginal cultures and beliefs look so beautiful while in reality there's nothing pretty about them. So while I used the word 'aestatisation' I'm really thinking 'anaestatic' here.

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I was just curious why you think there is "nothing pretty about" their culture?

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This is Maori culture. And how in reality is there nothing pretty about them?
So you're saying it looks beautiful but in reality it's not?
WTF???

Explain yourself!!

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it looks fooking beautiful only to deluded guilt ridden whities

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so you're saying that only white people will think it's beautiful?

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you know what I mean and if you don't I feel sorry for you

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No! I don't know what you mean! And you seem to have trouble explaining what you mean.

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I certainly won't explain anything to YOU. Have a good day.

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Next time you think you have something smart to say. Make sure you back it up dickhead

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fook ya

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HAHA!! :)

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Maori culture is in reality far from beautiful - Once were warriors is a more accurate representation of modern Maori "culture"- neither beautiful nor anything to be proud of.

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It actually doesn't really look that beautiful if u consider the naive patriarchal nature, at least in the beginning. Also, half the kids AREN'T into the culture, and kinda shrug at becoming chief, even Pourongi doesn't want to be chief.

They live in the country on a beautiful island. Seems like a nice way of life to me. Their history and cultural beliefs is part of who they are.

I guess u don't take pride in YOUR culture? If so, you should understand that others do as well.

I'm from Hawaii, and grew up around Polynesians. It's a beautiful culture, but as ALL cultures, may appear to have its flaws depending on ur point of view.

Were u even able to even read this far?? If so, fook you too.

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Yet you all try to adopt modern ways and when start to suffer from it find someone else to blame for the conscious choice you made. Have a good one.

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And btw..."aestheticization" and "anesthetic" have "h"s in them. Aestheticization has a "z" also.

If u want to use large words properly, learn to spell them. Otherwise, stick to simple thoughts, ideas, and vocabulary. It seems you're pretty good at being simple-minded from your above arguments, so you should do fine.

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Look who's in playful mood this morrow. Mr Lard himself in person, resorting to nothing else than grammar nazism. Feeling guilty lately you white piece of lard?

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Aestheticization has a "z" also.


No, it has an 's' in British spelling, which is what is used in NZ and Australia. Perhaps you could try learning more about the English language before you lecture others about it.

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So while I used the word 'aestatisation' I'm really thinking 'anaestatic' here.


Glad you clarified that for us.

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Is it a matter of "trying to adopt modern culture" or, like Indigenous peoples worldwide, having it forced upon them and then losing a rigged game?

ONCE WERE WARRIORS shows how assimilation doesn't pay ~ slave jobs followed by beer halls ~ and the beautiful option the wife/mother takes by returning to her peoples' ancient ways.

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Of course you are going to "get flame" for your comment, because you are making an ill-considered statement that dismisses everything positive about Māori culture. Yes, several films "aestheticise" exotic cultures in the sense that they gloss over the social problems that members of those cultures face. However, these problems are highlighted everyday in the media to the point that people forget that there is anything positive at all about the culture in the first place. That is why films like "The Whale Rider" are so important - they remind us of what is beautiful about the culture and also show how it can be changed for the better. I don't see what your problem is with this.

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