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Do black people who listen to rap listen to Eminem?


I mean, I've read that the main purchasers of rap music are in fact white suburbia kids, but still iconic rappers (Ice T, Dr. Dre, you know...) must have/had a black following.

So does that black audience, the ones who listens to gangsta rap, hip-hop and whatnot, do they actually listen to Eminem?

Because while he gets the "respect" of the black rap business community (whom I think would buddy up with a klansman as long as he sold records), does he get the respect from the black community that actually consumes rap music?

I get the feeling his main core audience is overwhelmingly white.

I guess I would have the same reaction if I ever saw/heard a black country music singer (I'm sure there must be one or two out there...).

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For the most part yes. He has legitimate emceeing talent, and he used that talent to hustle his way to the top. 8 Mile is fictional, but Eminem did enter battle tournaments to raise his profile, and you can find some of those old recordings on Youtube or file sharing services. He was good at it, too. On some of those tapes you can hear people in the audience like "WTF is this white kid doing here?" and by the end of the match they're cheering for Eminem. He did it the old-school, "dozens" way, by comedically ripping on his opponents and engaging in clever wordplay.

He's also legitimately a product of urban America, not a white kid from the suburbs trying to be hard or imitating certain emcees. (Asher Roth, Apathy, Sage Francis come to mind, but there are many others.) He was born and raised in Detroit. He played local shows there, battled other emcees there, and sold his first albums out of the trunk of his car. He doesn't try to "sound black" either, he has his own unique style, with a unique cadence that's unmistakably his.

And of course, he has his group, D12, the backing of Dr. Dre, and a good mix of guest emcees on his material. D12 has a big fan base in their own right, and they're also Detroit locals who came up with Eminem. People who might not otherwise listen to Eminem got introduced to his music through appearances on mixtapes, radio shows, and the albums of his crew.

Of course, tons of white kids buy his albums too. But his overall audience is a lot different than, say, the all-white crowds at a Mackelmore show. BTW, Darius Rucker is a black country singer. 😀

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His main audience is overwhelmingly white.

He does get a lot of respect from the black community and from black artists, from what I can tell.

The bigger issue is casual rap listeners (both black and white) vs hardcore rap listeners, hip hop heads, (both black and white).

Casual rap listeners seem to really hold him in high regard. I hear over and over again "I don't listen to rap, but I do listen to Eminem", "Eminem is the best rapper", "God, all those rappers are so stupid, except for Eminem," or worst of all "Eminem is the only rapper who *insert ignorant BS here*" No joke, my 60 year old grandmother listens to Eminem.

For this reason, people who have a strong interest in rap music may dislike Eminem. He's definitely not among the most respected rappers. He's still more talked about and respected than a lot of other rappers, like Flo Rida, Iggy Azalea, Pitbull, and those type of pop-rappers.

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or this reason, people who have a strong interest in rap music may dislike Eminem.


Answer: Because he's the most selling rapper and is white, in a predominately black music genre. You don't think this would chap some black people's asses? You'd have to go somewhere strange to not know someone who knows who he is. Maybe someone who is like 90 or something. So he's internationally known, so many people will pooh-pooh on him. Whether they truly respect him or not.

Also, I think his range and talents are a little bit better than being compared to Iggy and Pitbull.

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"His main audience is overwhelmingly white." - NikkiLee1999


Every hip hop act's audience are overwhelmingly white.

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Not if you're speaking about a global audience.

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YES, the man is a true lyricist!

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