Bodies


Like the Arizona in pearl harbor, are there bodies inside the Titanic? In the movie it showed many people being trapped, were they ever recovered?

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probably decomposed or eaten by fish/plancton or something...

don't know though...

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Well if they went down with the Titanic, its very unlikely that their bodies will have been recovered, unless they were on the deck areas when the ship went under then they may have floated back up, but if they were trapped then they would either drown or will have been crushed into nothing by the pressure of the sea long before it hit the bottom.

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With the evidence of microbal organisms that eat iron, it's safe to assume similar lifeforms dissolved all organic life much quicker. It's also doubtful the bodies themselves would have imploded. The human body is mostly one hollow cavity filled with 98% water already. I've asked, and the only part of the body that probably would have imploded from pressure is the brain cavity which is sealed off. These are the words of the person I asked, and I have no training myself to either confirm or refute that. Though if you watch the documentary Titanic Revealed (2004), you'll see some footage of matching pairs of shoes lying on the ocean floor in a position where you could imagine how a body would lay.

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A few weeks after the Titanic went down, a ship named the Mackey-Bennett went for the purpose of recovering bodies. They found maybe three hundred of them, recovering first and second class bodies, placing the first class in wooden coffins, second class in canvas bags. Third class or crew were buried at sea.

As for the bodies that went down with the ship, within months of it they would have been picked clean by organisms, along with all the food still inside, and the organic materials (horse hair beds, clothing, blankets, etc). Bones would be dissolved by salt water eventually.

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Human remains did not survive the 90+ years laying on the bottom of the ocean, however during Robert Ballard's second expedition to the Titanic, He captured a haunting image of two boots laying in the same position they were when there were feet in them...a haunting reminder of the lives lost. Since then, similar sights were found. Ballard also came across a porcelin doll's head which startled Alvin's crew seeing a stark white face staring at them in the darkness.

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I wonder how it is, that things like shoes, a jug of water with the glass....can still be in place. I would've thought the rush of the ocean coming into the ship, would move anything away. And, after all these years, the water still hasn't moved them out of their original spot.

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No they weren't because after over 90 years under the sea the pressure, currents and bacteria had broken down everything. Some people had gravemarkers but they were just polished or treated leather shoes side by side or protected wood which maybe wouldn't be decomposed as easily. Some people claim to have seen skulls - they may have, but they are most likely china dolls heads.

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there wouldnt be any human remains left after all these years . It takes 5 years for human remains including the bones to completely dissolve in salt water.

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Altogether, 333 bodies were recoved. There were other bodies seen by ships afterward, but they were never recovered.

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more then likeiley
they could not last that long down there becouse of the age the bodies
they couldant last down there that long
there is a story releat called deep in side the titanic
its on dvd
it does say that when a ship pictied the rest
it ended up being to ful and one woman jumptied to her death becouse
she said im not married
so i have no one
it also said days latter a life boat was found with bodies 3 in fact they ware barried and sea

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well not nessessarly because there was that one guy that they found way back in 93 who had been in the moutains for thousands of years and he was preserved by water so there is a good chance that SOME bodies are still there although it's very unlikely that any bodies are that well preserved. however i did read somewhere that in 98 they recorverd some wood shelves i believe it was? i also read in a 2004 issue of national geographics that by 2112 i belive it was the ship will be gone for good. and some good news is that in 2012 they will be realising some new information about the titanic so i've been looking fowaed to that since i was about 6 and i just turned 14 on the 9th so the titanic is something really important to me. i hope that one day i will get to travel down to the titanic even though it's not allowed i would give up my freedom for one real look at that ship i would do anything cept kill people to see that ship in real life and not in pictures. or on a tv screen. i had a thory some years back and even though i've had a better look into my thory i still go by it someone asked me "could the titanic be brought back to the surface?" and i said "no because it would disinegrate as it touched the air because of how long it was underwater that it's wedged in the ocen floor that if you did get it you would most likely destroy the remainer of the ship because it's now a fragil thing and you best leave it where it's meant to be part of the abyss"

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oh shut your yap im working on it! talk to me in june and i'll have an answer as to passing 8th grade science

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Not only were some bodies recovered in perfect shape inside the remains of the Titanic, But they also found living survivors!
They found 5 people still living who had found an air pocket to live in.
At the time the Titanic sank the 5 were only very young children.
They lived inside the air pocket for over 90 years eating fish and singing songs to one another.
All 5 survivors had cameos in the Titanic movie.
They were really happy to get out of that ship after 90+ years because they were tired of eating fish and they all went to Micky Ds after they finally got back to land.

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well ive seen dvds and they say no bodys are there
but i think that more then likely they are
becouse there are rooms that no 1 can get to

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On February 17, 1864 the Confederate submarine The Hunley was lost at sea after an attack on the Union ship The Housatonic during the Civil War. On August 8, 2000 the submarine was recovered and brought back to shore after 136 years under the waters of the Atlantic Ocean. When the submarine was opened the remains of the crew members were found, even the clothes they were wearing. The Hunley sank 48 years earlier than the Titanic so there could still be human remains deep inside the wreck. If you like shipwreck stories you should read "Raising The Hunley" by Brian Hicks and Schuyler Kropf. It tells alot more about the Hunley and the recovery of the bodies.

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ive follwied films on dvd since 1997
but wantied to learn a boght it in school,
but couldant so insead i found books
some beleave it is not the titanic down there but its sister ship
and i think it would be 100 years wouldant it in 2012
ive seen a few dvds in my time hoping to learn the full
true facts aboght the ship
as a dvd i have called deep in side the titanic clams the ship was on fire when it whent
and the 1980 film rise the titanic
claimied the ship was in 1 peace
i always find it intresting what people have to say a boght the titanic

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ok, there are some serious problems with some of the examples of shipwrecks you people are giving, for the hunley, it sank in shallower water, the titanic sank in deep very deep cold, frigid water, the pressure would be to much ona single bone/body at that depth, and since the titanic sank in that deep of water, there are several diffrent micro organisms that people dont know much about yet, the waters that the hunley and some of the other wrecks people mentioned, people know more about the organisms in that depth of water. and yes, it may be possible that there "might" be bone/bodies but i highly doubt it. because you see shots of shoes and stuff laced up, that is most likley a sign, someone was wearing the shoe at the time of the sinking, so, there is no body, just a laced up shoe.

that is one of the small, and not very informational pieces of evidence that there are no bodies on titanic

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what does pressure have to do with anything. a human obviously couldn't survive the pressures at that depth but i don't think anyone was suggesting they would, and its not like it is going to affect the decomposition of the body. it's not going to just collapse into nothingness from the pressure.

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ok, now i dont really support http://www.wikipedia.com as a trustworthy source, but i got this off of it about the empress of ireland,

this is a quote from robert ballard, the discoverer of titanic and has also explored the Empress Of Ireland:
"Unlike Titanic, which is only accessible with a submersible, Empress of Ireland can be accessed by scuba divers, albeit only highly skilled ones. Numerous recreational divers have since died on the wreck, mostly through penetration accidents."

if divers can access the ship, then human remains can survive, divers can access the Empress of Ireland, they can't dive on titanic,they can only access it by submersible,and the waters are to cold and too deep. if any bodies survived the sinking of the titanic, they would not last long.

there may be dna traces of remains, but no full bodies.

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The empress is sunk on a river, so it's not under the influence of salt water.

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Yea sure, Singing and talking to each other with not being educated

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I'm not trying to be condescending or elitist, but it is obvious that many of these arguments are being made by people without a whole lot of education/experience in these matters. Here is the truth of this matter:

There are no bodies left in the Titanic.

While other posters have referenced several different shipwrecks to support their claims that bodies may still exist, those shipwrecks were not being subjected to the same environment as the Titanic. Any freshwater wreck will always take longer to decompose than a saltwater wreck, because the corrosive properties of salt hastens the decomposition process. Also, wreckage that exists in shallower waters are not subjected to the same micro-organisms that a deep-water wreck would be. In fact, if the shallow-water wreck is in a area that can still be reached by sunlight, they typically will become overgrown with coral, which helps preserve the wreckage by cutting down the surface area of the wreckage that is exposed to salt-water.

Deep sea micro-organisms (specifically the bottom-dwelling ones) are specially evolved to feed off of dead organic material. Remember, with no plant life at the ocean bottom, the base of the deep sea food chain begins with the dead material that floats down from above. All of the flesh from the bodies still onboard the titanic would have been gone within 5-7 days. Any cloth or untreated wood would be gone within 10 years. Bones are tricky. There are some micro-organisms that will consume calcium, but I cannot be sure if they would have been present in the Titanic wreckage. If so, the bones would have been gone in under a year. If those organisms were not present, saltwater would have dissolved them in around 5 years. Treated wood will eventually be eaten away, as well, but the timeframe depends on which specific chemical was used for the wood treatment. As we can clearly see in this documentary, some of the doors/furniture are still being decomposed. Treated leather is the same, with decomposition time being dependent on the method of chemical treatment. Iron will eventually be dissolved by the saltwater, but it may take decades, sometimes centuries. Glass and ceramics will not decompose.

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you can see a skull on the bottom at the start of the Documentary take a look ( time 15:06 )

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no1 has found bodies cus they arent searching for bodies they are searching for other *beep* arent searching the bottom around titanic or under the sand /mud of the bottom. they havent search throw hole titanic aswell.

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Ballard and his team (who were the first to locate the ship) were aware that there could be bodies and kept their eyes open, out of respect for those who had perished. They didn't find any - probably decomposed and consumed by fish etc by now - but they did find hundreds of shoes, in pairs. The likely and chilling idea is that every pair of shoes was left at the spot where their bearer hit the ocean floor, and then pressed down into the clay by the weight of the drowned person - unlike cloth or body tissues, the leather, wood heels etc have withstood 80 years on the bottom of the sea..

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In Robert Ballard's book, Return to Titanic he mentions the only way the bodies could exis ton the titanic were those sealed within the water tight compartments.

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thank you ripper for being the first to reply with a sensible comment i agree there are too many that do not look at all the variables that effect the rate of decomposition and you at least have an understanding that it seems all the others dont

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FASCINATING STUFF.

not to change topics but anyone else get the chills when they see an airplane wreck on the bottom of an ocean...i get sick just thinking about it!

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in this documentary I think someone mentions peering into a porthole and seeing a ladies shoe with the laces tied, implying it was worn and the body dissolved away (similar to the infamous picture from a Ballard mission of two boots lying next to each other - ie a body was once in them)

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