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Guy in pub

posted 12 years ago by McEwansExported
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recomended this to me....he was a bit weird, should have realised what I was letting myself on for = pile of cartoon-esque garbage.

Only saving grace was acting of guy with bleached hair - ott character but he did it very well (he was also in Mongol) - rest of film was confused and trying to have shock value but done in very predicatable way so where is the shock?

Topics explored were pretty juvenile and handle in similar manner, maybe that is a Japanese trait so maybe simply did not export as well as it might.

Pretty boring and reminded me a bit of Britsh 70's stlye 'romps', the sort Mick Jagger would end up in.

[–] ComradeGramsci 12 years ago

I've been to a pub before and met people who watch movies.

The blonde guy was good. This film offered both "shock value" while also breaking the fourth wall to reveal the nature of watching violent movies to the audience themselves, which explains the anti-climatic ending as well as the alternating styles of violence?

I agree that the topic of father/son relationship was juvenile (hence the child), but I have to disagree about the topic of public misconceptions of their public, heroic figures (I.E. the tendency to purify them in an idealistic manner). Taxi Driver covered the same topic--that wasn't juvenile. I assume you were talking about only these two topics since you didn't actually mention any.

I don't like the rolling stones.

[–] Etherdave 10 years ago

I, too, frequently solicit the opinions of weird guys in pubs for advice on what movies to watch. None of them recommended this one, however, insisting, rather, that I watch 'Howard's End'. I bought the Collector's Edition DVD of 'Ichi The Killer' purely by chance, solely for the unique packaging, and then decided, after the fact, to actually watch the movie, being somewhat acquainted with the work of Takashi Miike.

I strongly believe the blonde guy bleaches his hair. I know many japanese with blonde hair. They all bleach their hair.

I did not find the film juvenile, nor would I recommend it to any of the juveniles I know. I would especially not recommend it to weird guys in pubs. I realized the first time I watched it that I would need to see it again to try to understand its complex messages and themes. I also had to watch it several times simply to ascertain that I actually had seen what I had seen. It's that kind of movie.

I have no sage opinion on the Rolling Stones, other than, given the amount of public sympathy for Keith Richards, for falling on his head out of a coconut tree, he should perhaps do it more often. Provided he does not kill himself; gratuitous violence, like gratuitous sex, is the bane of our society, causing us to enter into a moral abyss, where we cannot distinguish one from the other, or reliably chose what direction in which to turn.