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Just watched it tonight

posted 16 years ago by John_Gehrken
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Just got done watching Cradle Of Fear. I think I have to agree with what Dani said about it in an interview. It was meant to be a B-grade horror flick and it succeeds at that.

It was entertaining enough to keep my attention for the full legnth of the movie, which is a lot more than I can say about a lot of "better" high budget movies out there.

The chicks were mostly hot, the nudity wasn't TOO overdone, and the stories were...well good enough. I can't say it's one of my all time favorites, but I'm sure I'll watch it again in a year or two.

[–] Likuidfire 16 years ago

You're one of the people who get what b-grade horror is all about.
And I completely agree with you.

http://www.myspace.com/likuidfire

[–] jagheterjack00 16 years ago

I'm a massive championer of this film. But for some stupid reason i didn't get it on first viewing and slated it.

But after i slated it i couldn't stop thinking about it and got the urge to rewatch it and i saw a completly different film.

As it stands today i'm completly in love with this film and watch it on a regular basis.

[–] John_Gehrken 16 years ago

Hey Likuid - I checked out your Myspace page. Nice. You ever seen "Audition"? I didn't see it on your movie list but you'd probably like it.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0235198/

[–] Likuidfire 16 years ago

Hey there! YES! I love that! That one and Visitor Q are my favorite Miike movies.

http://www.myspace.com/likuidfire

[–] John_Gehrken 16 years ago

Haven't seen Visitor Q. I'll put it on my Netflix list. I've been on a horror kick lately and I've been trying to find some really disturbing stuff.

I TRIED watching "120 Days of Sodom" since it was somewhat referenced in COF's Babylon AD video but I only got about halfway through it. I wouldn't even call it horror.

[–] jagheterjack00 16 years ago

I would recomend Visitor Q.

[–] Likuidfire 16 years ago

Yeah, definitely Visitor Q. Not a horror film as much as a VERY dysfunctional family type movie. (I know it is meant to be disturbing, but I laugh my ass off every time I see that)

I've seen Salo twice. Alot of sick dialogue. Not a horror film I agree, more like the director making some kind of social commentary about something that happened in history. I thought it was really sick, but upon hearing how brilliant it was to some people, decided to watch it a second time. It didn't affect me any differently. Seemed like a gratuitous torture flick.

The August Underground series are a torture horror film trio, that is supposed to be disturbing. I didn't find them disturbing, but rather annoying, as the
people acting were screaming and laughing and couldn't keep straight faces the entire time.

Guinea Pig 2 (Flowers of Flesh and Blood) and 3 (Mermaid in a Manhole) were both good in my opinion.

I'm a HUGE fan of Murder Set Pieces and Subconscious Cruelty. And even Slaughtered Vomit Dolls. I'd recommend any of those (SVD only if you have a strong stomach)

I think the most disturbing film I've watched was Men Behind the Sun.
More of a history lesson about the atrocities done to the Chinese by the Japanese, during WWII. The torture in that is unforgettable and haunts me to this day. What threw it over the top was the poor cat that was fed to hundreds of starving rats. My research led me to an interview with the director that confirmed that it indeed was real. Makes me sick just thinking about it...

Netflix has both Guinea Pig movies, Murder Set Pieces (don't know if they have the unrated or rated version though), Visitor Q, and Men Behind the Sun.
I don't really recommend Men Behind the Sun. It was too much for me.

OH YEAH! Netflix has The Untold Story. If you haven't seen that, definitely check that one out! Brilliant!!

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[–] John_Gehrken 16 years ago

Cool, Visitor Q will be here tomorrow. I saw Mermaid In A Manhole a few years ago, that was just REALLY frikkin weird. I sat there the whole time thinking "what the fuuuuu?" I don't even remember how I came across it.

It's weird that you said what bothered you the most about Men Behind The Sun was that they fed a cat to a bunch of rats. Reminds me of that scene from Willard. I posted something not long ago about how I think it's so strange that animal deaths in movies get so much more of an emotional response than human deaths (and I'm talking about movies where the animal deaths are fake).

It's not violent or gory, but one of my favorite "WTF" movies has got to be Eraserhead. That was just 100% weirdness. Another of my favorites is "A Clockwork Orange". I tried to watch "Event Horizon" with some friends a few weeks ago but one girl got freaked out and we ended up watching "Lucy Daughter Of The Devil" instead.

On the comedy side, have you ever watched Shin Chan? If not, check it out...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2CqdX7vSVSc&feature=related

PS - I sent you a PM

[–] Likuidfire 16 years ago

Yeah, fake animal deaths in films make me more emotional then human deaths.

But that MBTS bit should have been outlawed. (It was made at an earlier time in another country) It is actually an excellent film, though very disturbing.
But the cat scene was completely uncalled for.
Real animal deaths to make a film is what bothers me a whole lot. In that one, they also burned those hundreds of rats alive.

Same way with the earlier cannibal movies. I really do like Cannibal Holocaust, but hate that they killed animals in the jungle to make it.

Ohhhh...Eraserhead. Good one! I saw that months ago and it was all kinds of f'kd up! A Clockwork Orange is classic, and Event Horizon was pretty good for modern horror.

Did you see the original Funny Games? They just remade it, and was released here today. The original was pretty good, and this remake (I'm usually highly opposed to remakes) seems promising. Since it was the same director doing it.

Another f'kd up non-horror film is Tetsuo: The Iron Man
Complete head trip of a movie!

I hadn't heard of Shin Chan before. Funny sh!t!
"Did you take the one pleasure Mommy has that doesn't involes a detachable shower head??"

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[–] John_Gehrken 16 years ago

I just got done watching Visitor Q. Holy perversion, Batgirl!!!

I don't know what to say... this family makes the Osbournes look Amish! The word 'brilliance' doesn't even start to describe this movie.

I don't see how anyone can combine incest, premature ejaculation, hitting people over the head with rocks, family torture, heroin addiction, fireworks, bullying, prostitution, lactation, a great family meal, voyeurism, rape, corpse sex, rigor mortis, lubrication, dissection, and family bonding (in that order) and still manage to make it a comedy.

Thank you so much for recommending this. I wish I had something to offer in return. The only thing that comes to mind is "Tromeo and Juliet" - yes I spelled that correctly. Netflix has it, and I think you'll like it.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0114733/
http://youtube.com/watch?v=f_1DOqFntAU

If you like it, you should also check out "Terror Firmer" by the same studio with some of the same actors...

http://imdb.com/title/tt0169299/
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Tn_G0eAy-Hk

[–] Likuidfire 16 years ago

I KNOW! I laughed my way through the entire thing!!
And that kid beating his mother to a pulp because she didn't buy the right toothbrush, or cut the commercials out of his recorded programs!!!

I have Tromeo and Juliet...nice Troma nonsense there! It's been awhile (like years) since I've seen it though. I remember a fight with tampons near the end

Terror Firmer...I still need to check that one out! Thanx...I'll see if Netflix has it and put it in my queue... "cereal killer"

http://www.myspace.com/likuidfire

[–] John_Gehrken 16 years ago

Have you seen "Hard Candy"? I'm supposed to be getting that one today. I'm laying off the movies a little bit this week because I'm looking for a new job and all the interviewing, testing, paperwork, and phone calls have got me worn out.

[–] Likuidfire 16 years ago

No, I've not seen that one. Let me know if it's any good and I'll add it to my queue. Job hunting indeed sucks.

http://www.myspace.com/likuidfire

[–] John_Gehrken 16 years ago

I thought it was pretty good, but not anything like the movies we've been discussing. There's no gore, not much blood, it's just really creepy.

The story gets going quickly (I like that) and it doesn't take long to get VERY intense. I saw it as more of a mind-fk movie than anything else.

Two warnings - be careful if you go to the IMDB page for this (I'm glad I didn't). There are a LOT of spoilers in the thread titles that could ruin the story. Second, if you watch this with your husband, there's a good chance he'll find it scarier than you will.

Oh yeah, if you're ever in the mood for a good dirty comedy, check out "Lucky Louie". It was on HBO a while back (sux that there was only one season).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b_smwUXJCc&NR=1
http://imdb.com/title/tt0460619/

[–] Likuidfire 16 years ago

I'm going to have to add that movie to my queue. I'm staying away from the message boards. I suppose from the word of warning, there must be a "Serpent in the Rainbow" type scene in there...

That Lucky Louie looks great! "You just pissed your pants?????? SURE!!!!"

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[–] JohnG6 16 years ago

Jeez - I was starting to think I'd pizzed you off or something. Yeah, there's a scene in Hard Candy that's something along the lines of the scene from "Serpent and the Rainbow".

I was sick as hell this weekend so I haven't watched anything new. The next three movies in my queue are "Angst", Mad Cowgirl, and Ebola Syndrome.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0338714/
http://imdb.com/title/tt0438204/
http://imdb.com/title/tt0116163/

I also bought one, "Chinese Torture Chamber Story 2". I couldn't get it on Netflix, but a place called HKFLIX.com had it for less than $10 with shipping.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0289115/

What are some of the movies in your queue?

[–] Likuidfire 16 years ago

No...I was just really busy. Between a deporable head and chest cold, the hellhole, and getting behind in alot of the household nonsense, I've not been on the computer much. Just a comment every now and then when at work, but no time there to write much of anything.

I've not heard of Angst and Mad Cowgirl, but you should love Ebola Syndrome.
Have you rented The Untold Story yet? Definitely the best movie of it's kind.
Netflix has that one.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0103743/

Chinese Torture Chamber Story 2....sounds awesome!

I've been on an old 70's 80's animal horror kick. I have Night of the Lepus here from Netflix. (giant man-eating rabbits) I have Day of the Animals in my queue, and Devil Dog: Hound from Hell.

I just returned Dimmu Borgir's World Misanthropy.

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[–] JohnG6 16 years ago

Okay, got a question for you. You recommended Murder Set Pieces a while back, but you specifically said to see the unrated version. Netflix only has the R rated one right now. Should I bother to put it in the queue or wait until I can get my hands on the real version? I read somewhere that there's only about 6 minutes cut for the R rated one.

Killer rabbits? Last time I saw anything like that was when I was watching Monty Python's The Holy Grail. Good stuff.

[–] JohnG6 16 years ago

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! They took "The Untold Story" off the Netflix list! It's now in 'unknown' status!

[–] Likuidfire 16 years ago

WHAT? That's bullsh!t!

Both The Untold Story and Murder Set Pieces are worth buying, if you can't find a place to rent them. I'm not sure about the MSP rated version, because I haven't seen it to know what they cut out. I got mine from the Toetag pictures website (I think)

http://www.myspace.com/likuidfire

[–] JohnG6 16 years ago

Yeah, BS I agree. They probably only had a couple of copies and they either got broken or stolen. I've seen that happen with Netflix before. Crappy thing is when it happened before, they didn't replace the movies.

This was overall a bad movie weekend. First I tried to watch "Spatter: Naked Blood". It was so boring and horrible I shut it off about halfway through.

Second was that one I bought from HKFLIX. "Chinese Torture Chamber". Still not very good, but at least I made it all the way through. The torture scenes were good, but they were few and far between.

I managed to ....obtain.... a copy of "The Untold Story". I'll try to watch it this week if I get a chance. Well, time to go to work. Have a good weekend?

[–] Likuidfire 16 years ago

Did you see Untold Story yet? I put Hard Candy in my Netflix queue. X>

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[–] Likuidfire 12 years ago

I don't see how anyone can combine incest, premature ejaculation, hitting people over the head with rocks, family torture, heroin addiction, fireworks, bullying, prostitution, lactation, a great family meal, voyeurism, rape, corpse sex, rigor mortis, lubrication, dissection, and family bonding (in that order) and still manage to make it a comedy.

That quote is f'king epic!

Talk about doing a 360 I'm messing around here bored on my lunch break at work.

Cept one thing different now though, John, I love you so gawd damned much.