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rip off of longest hard and the great escape


decent but the title says it alll

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Yes, I completely agree especially because this movie was made BEFORE The Longest Yard.

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You do realise the 2004 The Longest Yard was just a remake of the original 1974 film, right?

As for Mean Machine, it's an adaption of TLY - not a rip off.

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touche liljman, obviously i did mean the original, which was actually decent, the remake was fing horrible

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The Great Escape? I can't find any similarities at all between the two movies other than they are both about prisons!

The Longest Yard is very similar yes. The other movie I find very similar too is Escape to Victory (1981) (aka Victory). It was about a football match between an Allied prisoners team and a German pro team that took place in a prison in Nazi-occupied Paris during WWII. It starred Sylvester Stallone and Michael Caine. The cast was full of historical great players like Pele, Osvaldo Ardiles, Bobby Moore, Deyna, Paul Van Himst & many others.


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The Great Escape? I can't find any similarities at all between the two movies other than they are both about prisons!
I agree with you, but I think the poster meant Escape to Victory which does have a few similarities to this film. Yes, The Great Escape is way off the mark.

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Viend, you are an idiot.

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It's a remake of the longest yard but with proper football y'know the one where you use your FOOT to kick the BALL (I refuse to use the "S" word Americans use)

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it's an adaptation, but with REAL FOOTBALL, no that other thing americans seems to enjoy.

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They acknowledge it in the opening credits.

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I agree that "proper" football as you call it has much more reason to be called football than American football, but you know Soccer isn't an American word, right? It came from England, short for Association football.

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Yeah it is a British word. I love how condescending and obnoxious everyone else is about American football. They don't understand the first thing about it, and they don't understand why Americans don't like Soccer so they have this false superiority about how much better their sport is. They are completely different types of games. Certainly some Americans can be insulting when it comes to soccer, but these Brits just refuse to believe that anything different than their preferences are acceptable, while plenty of Americans have an ecclectic taste in sports. Most American sports have become international, and most international sports are accepted in American, but American football is an anomoly I guess. Soccer will never be a premiere sport in America just as American football will never be played at all outside of the U.S. and Canada.

It's just annoying how much either is pushed on the opposite markets. The NFL playing games in London is ridiculous. British people clearly could not care any less about the games, the players hate going, the fans hate having their tickets taken away from them, the stands are filled with Americans who happen to be in England, and the games are always terrible. Then on the other side, we are constantly being told as Americans that we should care about the World Cup and what not and we are lied to and told that U.S. team is going to be good, and the MLS spent a quarter of a billion dollars getting an aging, over the hill David Beckham to ignite the interest of the Amrtican population and it didn't work at all; and what's more he isn't even playing in this country at the moment.

It would be nice if either Americans or the rest of the world could realize that they are both worthwhile sports of completely different kinds and that certain fan bases like one more than the other. But you have to be completely misinformed to think that Americans are being less reasonable about this issue than their European counterparts. And as far as this movie goes, it's a remake of a very good American film. I may not like remakes, but at least the British filmmakers of this seemed to have no problem with respecting the story and tone of the original film. I don't get why if the English filmmakers had no problem with the American film the English viewers have to be so obnoxious about it.

...Also, to call a remake a 'proper' version is just stupid.

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...Also, to call a remake a 'proper' version is just stupid.
What's that comment about? The only time the word proper has been used ITT is to describe football, not the film. Are you calling association football a "remake" of American football?

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Yeah, that was the only time it was used, but the inference was that "proper" football made it a better film. Which is stupid....I won't even bother with your last sentence.

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Well, the four largest sports in US are basketball, baseball, american football and hockey where only the the last is huge anywhere but North America.

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That's flat out wrong. Hockey's only popular in places where its actually cold. Baseball and especially Basketball are far more popular globally.

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its a UK remake with Football instead of American Football...the Burt Reynolds original in the UK was called 'The Mean Machine'

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its a UK remake with Football instead of American Football...
Exactly. It was a popular movie taken and adapted to a different audience, one not familiar with gridiron.

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While I love the NFL and college football American style and am not normally a huge soccer/football fan (I played as a kid a lot), I am familiar with a lot of soccer's players and its stars of course.

In any case, I love both the original Longest Yard and Mean Machine. Mean Machine is so much fun to watch and I adore Vinnie. Jason Statham can just stand there like a statue and I would watch him and he cracked me up as Monk. The characters are fun and the story is fun, regardless of who or what it is based upon. David Kelly was great (Doc's part of the movie actually reminded me of Escape from Alcatraz). I loved Massive (Vas Blackwood) and I loved all of the crazy guys (Sykes, Nitro, Governor, Trojan, Raj, Billy, and that Bob and Bob killed me! I was rolling over their broadcast of the match)! Just too much!

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How many retards are their out there seriously?

'The Longest Yard' 1974 starring Burt Reynold's is the original.

That film was re-named the 'Mean Machine' in the UK.

'The Mean Machine' 2001 is a re-make of that film changing the setting to England and the sport to Soccer, not a rip off of the American film.

And then 'The Longest Yard' 2005 is a straight watered down re-make of the 74 Burt Reynold's film.

Jeese to go from Reynolds, to Jones to Sandler, if they make another it will star Lindsey Lohan.

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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071771/

The Longest Yard (1974)

Writers:
Albert S. Ruddy (story)
Tracy Keenan Wynn (writer)


Tracy Keenan Wynn is also credited for THIS movie.
'ripoff' isn't really accurate.

movies and directors and writers have influenced and borrowed from each other since the art form began.

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your a cock head

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The longest hard, sounds like gey pron.... and it is, just a British take on it like us Americans do to some British films.

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