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Does anybody know any historical inaccuricies in the film?


Doing a paper and was wondering if any history buffs/experts knew of any historical inaccuricies in the film.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks

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I assume you've already done your paper, but just for the record I will point out that most of the plot of the film is innacurate. Hitler only pursued art before WW1, after it he was focused solely on the army and on politics. The movie is good, but it is not factual.

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The film is primarily fictional with a few dashes of Hitler's time between wars.

The above poster is wrong, Hitler never stopped painting . You can find some of it online (post WWI).

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SoTyred must be very tired.

-- Hitler's 'art period' largely took place in 1908-1912 or so -- LONG before WW I even began.

-- Even before WW I, Hitler had turned more to architectural drawings than painting. This did NOT suddenly dawn on him AFTER WW I.

-- The MAIN historical error with MAX is that Hitler had no thoughts at all of becoming a painter AFTER WW I. He had NO conflict between being an artist or a political leader.

If Hitler painted anything after WW I then it was clearly more as a hobby than as a potential career.

He spied on the Nazi party while working as a soldier after WW I, and then later joined the party and became its leader.

Hitler also had strong anti-semitic views BEFORE WW I, which was common across Europe at the time. Anti-semitism is far from being a German invention in the 1930s.

MAX is a good film, but it is 80% fiction, at least.



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Also, the National Socialist Workers Party is appropriately titled German Workers Party without the National Socialist in front. A splinter organization set up by Anton Dextler - the original founder of the German Workers' Party. Who as well was a member of the Thule Society, a German occultist and völkisch group that chiefly sponsored the German Workers Party. The Thule Society's views dived into anti-antisemitism as well as Nationalism. So it's pretty blatant as to why they were so eager to sponsor the DAP and Hitler's rapid ascension into power. Anton Dextler advised Hitler in 1920 to add the 'National Socialist' shortly before its dissolution into what we all know as the National Socialist German Workers' Party, or commonly referred, Nazi Party.


But going a bit earlier in the years. By 1918, the films time setting, Hitler had no political affiliation with the party yet until a year later when he was assigned to spy on the party as a Corporal for the then Imperial German Army. From his membership into the party he quickly escalated into prominent leadership, his artistry work was far behind him in terms of a real career.

The German Workers Party also had occultist, racial themes to it and also utilized the sunwheel-like swastika used by both the Thule Society and the German Workers' Party. The reversed Swastika symbol that Hitler innovates near the films climax with his militaristic drawings of pre-Nazi Germany were actually already innovated long before by German occultists and anti-Semites - including, but not limited to, the Thule Society.



Also, within his drawings we see a portrait of an SS-Totenkopfverbände Officer in full black-clad uniform with the Totenkopf (Death's Head) skull insignia on the collar sheet and at the base of his hat. It was actually fashion designer Hugo Boss who produced much of the Nazi uniforms, many of which its designers had worked in costume Theater design. Giving them their striking, yet elegant, imposing look. Hitler's fashion innovations were blank in terms of the Nazi Apparel/clothing, unlike what the film portrays.

The only form of Nazi-related design(s) that Hitler composed himself was the tilted, black Swastika with the circular white foreground and the red background. Which was the official National Flag of Nazi Germany. Also arguably the most popular form of Swastika design known in the Western World.





Another historical error is the drawings of the Autobahn; the idea of the Autobahn was first conceived during the days of the Weimar Republic, but apart from the AVUS in Berlin, its construction was staggeringly slow, and most projected sections did not progress much beyond the planning stage due to lack of political support and economic issues. The autobahn wasn't envisioned by Hitler himself as the film implies with his drawings with his 'super-roads'.

More historical incorrections I also picked up was the architectural drawings of Hitler's envisioned/pre-Nazi Germany. Which include the drawings of an unidentified structure and the Volkshalle - which both were designed by Albert Speer. Who was the prominent Nazi Architect of the Reich as well as the Minister of Armaments. Albert Speer did not meet Hitler until 1930.


Last historical error I also spotted; Hitler had already sported the trademark handlebar mustache during World War 1. Though I believe this error as well as the building one is spotted in the goofs section on IMDb and was already spotted in this thread.

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"Anti-antisemitism"? Did you accidentally tack on an extra "anti" there?

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I agree with all the historical inaccuracies mentioned above, but on top of all that, I don't even think the producers tried all that hard with the costuming. I mentioned on another thread it looks more late 30's and 40's than circa 1919 to me.🐭

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