This movie pales in comparison to Michael Mann's 1986 film (notice the terms "movie" & "film.") Mann's film was a truly disturbing, psychological work of art. This is just bad entertainment with a bunch of big names populating the cast to increase the gross earnings.
Watch "Manhunter."
Manhunter is excellent, watching it right now.
shareA trillion times better than this garbage. William Petersen is far better than Norton, an actor who I think is awesome btw, Dennis Farina puts more heart into it than Harvey Keitel, again an awesome actor who doesn't fit in his part and the directing was far superior, because even the smallest scenes, like the run down the halls of the hospital after the Lecter visit and the retrieving of the evidence from the helicopter, had far more thought and effort put into it than any scene put in this movie. To hell with Brett Ratner for ruining such a great movie like Manhunter with a cliched, generic cop thriller.
shareI've seen it. I was underwhelmed and disappointed as a fan of the book.
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This movie is nothing to write home about, but Manhunter is *beep* garbage. That score? Awful. The acting? Jesus Christ. And that retarded ending? I mean wtf. You must be speaking on nostalgia alone. That and/or Ratner hate, which I completely understand.
shareI totally agree. I'd give Red Dragon a 7/10 and Manhunter a 4/10 and that might be a little gracious towards both of them.
sharehaha this cretin thinks his failed opinion on film matters.
Manhunter is a masterpiece.
Manhunter is one of the most overrated film ever, Red Dragon is great movie.
actors:
Brian Cox as Hannibal sucks, Hopkins is great as ever
Petersen is a decent actor, Norton is perfect for Will Graham
Noonan is not bad but Fiennes is amazing as Dollarhyde
In Manhunter the ending with in a gadda da vida is embarassing, red dragon ending is very intense and scary.
Sorry guys but it's the nostalgia that makes you prefer Manhunter.
Manhunter correct rating 6/10
Red Dragon correct rating 8/10
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This guy is better than us all. Take his word for it. He uses better words after all!
shareHopkins' Hannibal = overdone and overacted. No serial killer acts like this.
Norton looked bored out of his mind and his Will showed none of the characteristics the character is supposed to possess.
Noonan is far creepier than Fiennes. Dollarhyde is supposed to be physically repulsive/ugly yet they cast an actor considered by many women to be extremely handsome. Complete fail.
Not to mention the overall visual aesthetic, lighting, framing, pacing, etc. is far superior in every way. Even Michael Mann's worst beats Ratner's best any day.
Dollarhyde is supposed to be physically repulsive/ugly yet they cast an actor considered by many women to be extremely handsome. Complete fail.
"Norton is perfect for Will Graham"
I read this and had to laugh!
Perfect in what way? Have you even read the book?
Norton was about as convincing as Will Graham as John Wayne was at playing Genghis Khan!
Was it a millionaire who said "Imagine no possessions"?
Anyone who has seen Ed Norton in one of his great performances and can't tell the difference between that and what he did here is deluding themselves or absolutely tasteless. This is the difference between directors like Michael Mann, a guy who is critically acclaimed for his many famous drama thrillers throughout the last several decades, and Brett Ratner, who is known mostly for nothing more than a handful of godawful family action comedies and laughing stocks like X-Men 3. Their works speak for themselves. They're not on the same level at all. I mean seriously, how incompetent do you have to be get such underwhelming performances out of some of the industry's best actors?
You Red Dragon fans seem to like pointing out the 1 or 2 Mann films you didn't like, but let's play the opposite game. Not counting Manhunter or Red Dragon, Why don't we count the good drama thrillers that Mann has done and compare it to the number of ones Ratner has done? Oh wait. We can't, because Ratner hasn't even done a single other drama thriller besides his remake of an already existing movie....
Manhunter is a turd movie. As someone posted above, it's working for nostaligia. If someone else directed with Mann as writer, then maybe... Mann, who did greater films (Thief, Heat, Insider) put so much emphasize on visuals and soundtrack which ruins the movie. People might think it's awesome, I don't. It looks like same watered down version of Miami Vice and sterile CSI episode. Also, this movie didn't scare me a one bit. Red Dragon did. Also, Anthony Hopkins is (as is every time he played) much better than Brian Cox. The ending is much better, given into the account the shootout, anticlimactic - which seems so out of place.
Norton was bloody awful in this. Talk about 'see' someones acting.
Hopkins plays Lecter like he always does. Hammy and over the top as usual.
Mann has never made a 'turd' movie in his life.
If Red Dragon scared you then you're a booby.
Was it a millionaire who said "Imagine no possessions"?
"Hopkins plays Lecter like he always does. Hammy and over the top as usual."
So...? The problem is...
"Mann has never made a 'turd' movie in his life."
Uh, The Keep perhaps? or Miami Vice (2006)? Blackhat?
"If Red Dragon scared you then you're a booby."
A lot more than MH. Except the image of burning man in the chair, the rest is ludicrous and eccentric for all wrong reasons.
"So...? The problem is..."
Well that he's hammy and over the top i spose.....
The Keep and Miami Vice are both excellent films. Haven't seen Blackhat yet
Was it a millionaire who said "Imagine no possessions"?
Whats the difference between a movie and a film? Please explain
shareI watched Manhunter.In my opinion Red Dragon is the superior movie.Anthony Hopkins,Edward Norton,Ralph Fiennes,Harvey Keitel and Philip Seymour Hoffman all gave better performances than Manhunter.I was surprised how even though Red Dragon has so many similarities to Manhunter yet the acting in Red Dragon made the movie enjoyable to me.Manhunter felt longer than it actually was.But that's just my opinion.
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