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How could he be married to Muire?


In the book, Muire reported that Jack was very catholic. Muire knew he was married. Yet Muire said that she and Jack had been married in the church. HOW????

The title is all about who was the pliot's wife - Kathryn or Muire?

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I don't think that Jack and Kathryn were married in the church. Do you remember when she was trying to plan his memorial service and she told the priest something to the effect that her husband hadn't been to church in many years? I was wondering the same thing and this was the only thing I could come up with. Your comment about the title was very interesting - I hadn't thought about which wife the title was referring to - I assumed it was Kathryn.

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Anyone can be married in a church, I know lots of couples who married in a church who had never been to church before or since.
As to the how could they get married when he was already married? In this film we are dealing with very devious characters involved in smuggling, terrorism and murder, to not admit to being already married would be pretty minor deception to these people.

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In the book, Muire and Jack had a wedding ceremony but i believe that they did not go through the legal proceedings to be 'officially married'
So while Muire considered herself to be married legally they weren;t

What was the highlight of our relationship?The time you broke up with me or the time I killed you?

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As a Catholic I can indicate that a marriage not in church is considered a non-sacramental marriage. It may be legal in the eyes of the State, and it may be innocently believed by the participants that they are truly married, but in the eyes of the Catholic Church and God, a Catholic who marries outside the church is not married at all. And this is how he was able to marry Muire, and he did. There was no impediment to his marriage to her. Kathryn's was not considered lawful, though legal it was.

The movie made some changes, which indeed did not seem to make sense becase they didn't understand the Catholic mind.

BTW, smuggling, "terrorism" and "murder" were not what the pilot was accused of. It was known that he did not know he carried a bomb, he did not intend to kill anyone, so you last sentence is inappropriate.

The IRA was discredited by the protestant factions to bring down the peace process.

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Not that I wrote it but the last line is from Buffy I believe when she was talking to Angel. It had nothing to do with the movie.

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Actually his marriage to Muire (his second marriage) would not be recognized as valid by the Catholic Church. The Church recognizes civil marriage to another as an impediment to a valid scramental marriage. He would have to divorce Kathryn and get his marriage to her annulled by the Church before being able to marry Muire in a Catholic Church. Both he and Muire entered into a sacrament in deceit. Hence the Church would consider their marriage invalid.

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No, not "anyone can be married" in a Catholic church. Others faiths, yes, but Catholics take getting married in the church very seriously. You are required to go through six months of marriage counseling before a priest will consent to marry you (or technically, that is how it is supposed to work).

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The night is a very dark time for me.

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Kathryn was his legal wife since he was married to her first.

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Would someone as young and beautiful (with a Scottish accent, no less) really be interested in an old fart?

Stranger things have happened



Ernie, I don't have time to consider all the things I have to consider

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Good point, especially one with such a childish temper; when he sent his laptop crashing to the floor after getting mad at Kathryn.

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