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The most soulful spiritual film i've ever seen.


I think without the help from a viewer this film would be seen only as a superficial video game. It's fascinating to see how the reception always varies from one viewer to another, as it always depends on the viewer's insightful contribution, so at the end you'll learn more about the viewer than about this film. I always loved this inner power.

What really surprised me is the importance of the scenes with Zhang's human character, elevating on the higher level of the moral order in order to learn from the Gods' experience that only paralleled with the distant future of our mankind. Basically all the implied parallels are usually giving me the creeps, because they show the possible future of the advanced civilization. That's what i strongly believe, that what is in the film is just a miniature of what might happen in some 5000 years from now, but on Earth. This film will never cease to fascinate me.

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What really surprised me is the importance of the scenes with Zhang's human character, elevating on the higher level of the moral order in order to learn from the Gods' experience that only paralleled with the distant future of our mankind. Basically all the implied parallels are usually giving me the creeps, because they show the possible future of the advanced civilization. That's what i strongly believe, that what is in the film is just a miniature of what might happen in some 5000 years from now, but on Earth. This film will never cease to fascinate me.

Interesting. There's millions of ways how to look at this film, but not one is wrong. Always interesting. That's one of the reasons i love this film so much. And i bet many others too.

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Glad to see some people watch this film for what it is. One can learn a lot from this film and its deep spiritual connections. Please, tell me, didn't you see in this film the same metaphor for the progress of the current civilization? The desired perfection of the human condition... that's i believe where we are slowly getting at. I don't think human beings will ever be flying in some distant future, no matter how advanced we will all be, but these demigods' experiences in this film seem to be just projecting our own progress in some way. It's quite scary and sad at the same time, because these demigods could have never found love or joy in life because of this training of their spirit. Very frustrating look on life as well. It seems that the desired goodness has its drawbacks too, as the film subtly pointed out. No individual ideals, everything devoted for the benefit of the society. As if the world of Gods was nothing but a place of the totalitarian regime. I see just a paradox and a sense of doom for the human feelings. I'm quite interested what you think of it or if you didn't see this in it as well.

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I respect your opinion but with that said, I must say that there is absolutely nothing soulful or spiritual about this movie. Uplifting....that's arguable, but soulful or spiritual - you gotta be kidding me! Not that this is relevant but I'm Asian (Chinese to be exact) and sometimes we see certain flaws that aren't always visible to the western viewers. It's actually quite embarassing when I hear people praise this peice of garbage and claim they've been 'enlightened' or 'enchanted' or whatever. In my opinion, this movie is just crap. I find it quite hilarious how these goofy ass fanboys will praise any Tsui Hark movie simply because he 'directed' or 'produced' it. It's hard to believe that the same man responsible for such modern classics like Once Upon a Time in China and Iron Monkey would make such a forgettable piece of junk like Legend Of Zu. Thumbs waaaay down.

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I loved this movie. It was a very nice movie. I saw the doubled english version and I think that the voices were SUPERBLY chosen. Also, I see that the names are changed: White Eyebrows becomes White Lion (much better if u ask me). The battles and the animations were pure magic.

The villain and his army were cool too. All in all a great movie.

What I didn't like was that philosophycal nonsense and the cut-scenes. Some may say that I am an idiot and didn't understand the movie at all. They may be true but this does not change the fact that this movie had the most awsome battle scenes i ever saw.






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I admire your way to use philosophy of perception how to adopt lots of these spiritual connections to real life that profoundly relate to Chinese mythology. That’s actually one intended way how to look at this; another is the fact that can also be found in Chinese mythology, that the whole film from the first minute to the last is based on the highest Taost’s ideal and dream of the so-called Spiritual Paradise - where immortals and deities dwell together in peace - It’s the correlation of the planets and symbols that relate to Chinese 5 elements: water, fire, earth, metal and wood, alongside classical yin and yang as moon and sun. Which all combined together form the ultimate piece of conjunction of everything not only elemental but also physical and abstract like people and ideals. The main point is that without the extremely well-researched spirituality and metaphysical conceptualized symbols this movie would have not even existed. Although, i think that only more educated viewers can fully comprehend the whole philosophical potential of this transcendent masterpiece.

To me, this is the most extraordinary movie i’ve ever seen in my entire life, and definitely the best of the filmmaker who accomplished this film.

To the previous quite infantile poster, i can only advise him to withdraw his daft comments just in order to avoid any embarrassment because of his severe lack of knowledge and insight that is very much required for this kind of a film. This is not some J.Woo or Z.Yimou film who are creating shots for the sake of the beauty of them, in this film every visual detail, aesthetics and texture of it has its own specific enlightening meaning that usually relates not only to the development of the characters and story but also to the Chinese modern art and culture. It's these metaphysical symbols and each individual viewer's own interpretations that subtly propel the story forward. Ironically, there doesn't exist any proper objective analysis or critique of this film, because it only depends on the subjective insight that's enriching this film as well as its own experience viewing it. In other words, it's up to the viewer's own thoughtful input how much the film can be rewarding.

This is not some personal bizarre conception of this film, this is the exact way how this bizzare film was really made and how it's supposed to be comprehended and watched. Even though i delved deeply into this film during one of my classes of Oriental studies where it was being screened for all of our students, i would rather suggest to read Joseph Campbell's instructive novel "A Hero With A Thousand Faces", and using his method applicating greater philosophical ideas to the given thematic subjects. Campbell's pattern itself about the hero's learning from the past experiences and resurrection in the spirit is very much resonating with the nature of this film, however, it's even more appropriate, as in my view this movie is mainly propelled by the ideas, and not the story itself.


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I've just seen it and I was totally blown away - I think it's one of the greatest movies I've ever seen, period. It's like watching a living dream. And the plot's TOTALLY easy to follow - it's just Oriental films are very direct with their plots, they don't faff around with subplots and romances, they just go for it with all orbs blazing!!

Most of the story is told BY the special effects, which are mindblowing in themselves. It's just a great, wonderful good-v-evil fight all the way through, for 100 minutes. I'm going to see it again, when my mind's a little less blown.

What a movie! Why don't films this good get general release? Because the Great Sheep Herd called the General Public are so brainwashed to expect Hollywood plots, they don't understand anything else.

I hope there's another film like this, one day. The only one I've seen that comes close is 'A Chinese Ghost Story', but this was the superior of the two.

Long Live Chinese Cinema!!

ulrichburke

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