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Seeing himself in the casino???


anyone understand what this part meant?

thanks

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I just watched the movie on Pay Per View (didn't even know it existed). I did some digging and found a site that interviewed the director. This part of the interview that mentions that scene:

RK: I had a private meeting with him, just once, before we started shooting. I suppose that I wanted to get his blessing, and I did, but I also wanted to make sure that some of the details of the banking operation were accurate.

There was a lot of guesswork in the script, and I wanted to be sure we weren't getting anything wrong.

MCN: Did you learn what drove his addiction?

RK: There's a point, after Mahowny loses his money in the final craps game, when he stands back and watches himself gambling. Molony said, "Now, where did that come from?"  I really couldn't remember, but he said it mirrored the way he felt. So, that was reassuring.

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Seemed like it just tied up the whole, "small time to big time" gambler thing. Like when he enters casino the first time and we see the big time asian being escorted, then later its him.

The one thing I didn't like was there was absolutely no... emotion. I mean the guy was so cool about everything it seemed, ITS so much money, no swearing. Or better yet the times he was winning, nothing. Then in interview, saying he got a 100 out of 100 gambling. Didn't buy it.

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The true big time gambler NEVER shows emotion... win or lose. Winning or losing is not the issue... the action is.

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You hit the nail right on head Rick. Being a compulisve in recovery (about 20 months since i last bet) I can tell you its not about loosing or winning, its also not about the money. Ive seen many guys who played lottery tickets and went throgh the same emotions a high roller did.

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im a 7 months clean compulsive gambler.

it didnt matter how much i won or lost,
i never really showed any emotion.
(aside from getting upset if anyone
bothered me while i was playing:
i threatened to call security
on my boyfriend once).
:(

if i had ever let myself realize that what i was
doing was real, id have totally & completely
freaked out & lost it. i think thats why he never
allowed himself to get emotional @ all.

the most important thing (for me) was to try
to forget it ever even happened & to do that
as fast as i possibly could. the ride home from
the casino was always like a little brainwashing
session.

i think he does a great job of portraying the
vicious cycle that compulsive gambling is.

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"if i had ever let myself realize that what i was
doing was real, id have totally & completely
freaked out & lost it. i think thats why he never
allowed himself to get emotional @ all. "

There was a common phrase heard when I worked at a casino, "the man that invented gambling was smart, the man that invented chips was a GENIUS".

I must admit the hardest part of working at the casino was not dealing with the abusive jerks it was watching the mopes flush their winnings down the tubes.

I was once witness to a player who lost over 75k of the casino's money, every single chip went back into the rack.

IMO gambling addiction is one of the ugliest if not misunderstood.

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"There was a common phrase heard when I worked at a casino, "the man that invented gambling was smart, the man that invented chips was a GENIUS"."

Totally agree, I just *love* fish and chips.

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I loved the parallelism of those two scenes: his being made to wait while the other "whale" is escorted by, and then later he is the one being escorted. Great soundtrack moment too.

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My guess... his conscience or superego. At the time, he was winning big and I thought this apparition would compel him to cash in and leave. When the apparition disappeared a moment later, he was doomed to lose it all.

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It was like the Cop or Casino Boss (I can't remember which) said, he only wins so that he can lose that money (or something like that). He didn't care about winning a hand or a roll, he was too busy getting amped up about the next hand. Can't celebrate a victory too long.

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well if he wasn't emotional, that doesn't matter, cause I was emotional on every hand he played, man it was the most up and down movie emotionally I've ever seen. WOW

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if you liked this movie, you should see Rogue Trader with Ewan Mcgregor, not as good but same type of roller coaster.

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And you can't forget the session with the therapist in the end where the therapist asks him something along the lines of in the gambling world, how would you rate your enthusiasm...something like that... on a scale of 1 to 100. He scored 100. Out of the gambling world, he scored himself a 20.

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I think rick-mad-dog really understood the movie and how a true gamling addict acts.

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bingo maddo!!!!!!

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basically he is finally realizing and actually seeing himself about to lose all of his money. but due to his illness, he is unable to stop..

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Basically, in literary terms, seeing your exact double or "doppelganger" is an indication that either your death or a disaster is coming. I think it's fairly clear that this must have been the intention of the filmmakers here.

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The director came and talked to my class of 17 today after we watched the film. He talked about this scene in detail and was explaining how Mahowney was in the position at the beggining of the film watching the high roller at the same table. He also mentioned that there was a point in a persons life where he sees himself, as though watching him..and this point in Malony's life, as a o/c gambler, knew he was unable to make a rational decision-that he would just keep gambling even though he was up. When the director originally met the real Dan Mahowney, Malony agreed with him about the accuratness of this scene and was very intrigued that it was being included in the film.

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