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I have a couple of questions about season 3 (spoilers)


Hi. I love this show, but i havent seen all of the episodes, and i am a little confused about a couple of things. I would really be grateful if someone out there could help me.

1) What happened to Suzanne? I watched 1 episode, and she was in it, and the next episode i saw, there was no mention of her, and she wasnt in it.

2)What happened to Jake? i saw half of the episode where he was attacked, and it did look like he was meeting the guy in the hotel, but the detective seemed pretty keen to get the truth out of him, and i thought that he was going to tell everyone that hes gay (i saw an earlier episode, and he was going into that gay gym that lulu was walking out of), but the episode i saw yesterday, he was in bed with Kate, and it seemed to suggest that they had been having sex. And when she mentioned about being violated, he seemed uncomfortable.

Like i said, i havent seen every episode, and now i am worried that i have missed a major storyline, cos im a bit confused lol. Thanks in advance

Dawna



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No, you haven't missed much that i could tell. you pretty well nailed what was going on.

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1. Suzanne or Susan, depending on how Lulu pronounces it each episode, still pops in and out with her cases. She acts like the affair was no big deal, or that Lulu should have told her she was pregnant. Business as usual at LSP.


2. Jake was supposed to have told Burton and his mom that he was gay, but, to me, it wasn't very overt. More presumed that he told it all. The detective was smart enough to try to push Jake to disclose, due to the area he had been in the night of the attack and the fact he appeared to be hiding the truth. Jake didn't tell him the truth.

He kept the truth from Kate and everyone else. If you are watching it currently on Sleuth Channel, we are at the same place in the episode lineup. Jake's engagement to Kate seems threatened by his perceiving that Nick will spill his secret. So he tries to forestall the potential damge the truth could bring, by leading Kate to believe that Nick is trying to discredit him because of the currently Fallin & Fallin power struggles. She seems unsure that he is truthful, and tries to connect the dots herself. Neither Nick nor Lulu will divulge Jake's secret.

I think that the episode where Kate and Jake discuss the attack, his look is because he knows why it was provoked and how it really happened, and it wasn't a violation in the sense that Kate believed it was. Don't get me wrong, rape is rape, no matter gay, straight or bi.

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Thanks so much for answering my questions. Im watching it in the uk on five usa. Glad i didnt miss anything major. Thanks again.

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Nick's father saw Nick and Suzanne in a restaurant kissing and later that evening he told Nick that he shouldn't lie to people who love him. While in bed probably early the next morning, Nick told Lulu about the affair. The VERY lame excuse he gave was that she had hurt him by turning down his marriage proposal (probably wise on her part). At work Lulu is obviously very cold to Suzanne and eventually confronts her and tells her she is pregnant with Nick's baby. Later in the court house Suzanne approaches Lulu in the court house and tells her she is very sorry. Lulu then moves out of Nick's house.

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There's at least one episode I can recall where Jake actively participates & gets caught WITH a gay young man & when I say young, the boy appears to be barely legal if even that. The young man comes in after his siblings are removed from his care. He tells Nic that he knows that Nic knows he is obviously gay and that if he doesn't get decent counsel on his case he will "take the case to his powerful big-time lawyer boyfriend."

Jake gets caught when the boy, Lucas I believe, shows up at Fallin and Fallin where Nic runs into him waiting for Jake. Nic questions him about it and then later he tries to proclaim he was simply a boy that works at a coffee shop and that he ISN'T gay but ultimately he owns up to it pleading for Nic's discretion and not calling him as a witness for the boy's case where Jake has paid him money to help with the kids, which is actually Jake paying for sex - prostitution with the boy.

This is when I really start to dislike Jake. It isn't because he is gay. I have gay/lesbian friends so I am very much in favor of alternative lifestyles and believe that everyone should have freedom of choice in the bedroom as long as it is between consenting ADULTS. This young man doesn't appear to be even close to legal age or if he is, it's barely legal... It puts more of a pedophile view of Jake in my mind, which just turns up the disdain I felt toward him in the first place b/c he's already been working and basically stabbing Nic in the back as well as Burton, which includes the firm. Then for Jake to turn into a downright hypocrite in the last season just made me hope that someone would tell his then-fiancee about his closet life only because I wanted him to get a go of how it felt to have someone blow his life apart in the manner he blew Nic's apart by taking away the rightful heir to Fallin and Fallin. But, Nic does the honorable thing and doesn't tell the soon-to-be Mrs. Straka the truth tho' personally, I wish he had or even more so, I wish Lulu had told her. He's shown throughout the show in gay bars and a gay gym. It becomes abundantly clear that the only reason he's dating women or attempting to marry a woman is to keep his appearance unsullied by keeping the fact he likes men deep in the closet. He turns into an outright hypocrite. I truly wanted to see him lose it all the way he torpedoed Nic's career at his father's firm as well as causing Burton to lose face in the firm he built.

Stepping off the soapbox now...

Paise

PS: I really hate the series was canceled. There is an episode shown that appeared after the season 3, epi 22 on IMDB but I can't find it anywhere. If anyone knows what happened in that episode, I'd like to know.





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Lukas is younger tan Jake but he is clearly not underage, not nearly eather. He is a young men , in his twenty ( the actor who plays the role is 29 years old , indeed) who has been taking care of his siblings during three years and has a relationship with Jake, is not prostitution. Only that Jake is helping him because they are in a relationship and Lucas has money problems . These are the kind of things that couples do, helping each others. The whole thing ends badly because Jake doen't accept himself, whath makes him have that homofobic behave and trys so bad to deny what he is all the time, reaching the point to be about to getting merry with a woman.

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Can someone clarify then -

- We get hints throughout Season 3 that Jake might be gay (goes to the gay gym etc)
- He is then attacked at that motel by that guy

What it's not clear to me, how did that happen? Was he cruising and hoping to get some action and then changed his mind (and the guy then attacked him)? Or was that maybe the first time he'd plucked the courage to actually have sex with a man and then chickened out (and the guy attacked him)

The fact that he was going to the gay gym/sauna doesn't mean that he had full sex with anyone up to that point really....

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I think that we could have hints about Jake's tendency of stabbing Nick's shoulder right at the beginning of the first season already.
When Amanda is denied permission of doing pro bono work at CLS, he comments 'You want to make a difference? Do drugs. Get arrested.' Then, at the end of the season, he does some insider trading.
I had a sense that sooner or later he would do something to become the managing partner at the expense of the heir. Come on: the firm is called Fallin and Fallin starting season 2!

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>>He is then attacked at that motel by that guy>>> What it's not clear to me, how did that happen?

I believe he had been cruising for a while and through the law of averages was then a victim of "gay-rip off", that is the perpetrator had done it before and got away with it because victims did not want to press charges. Jake is pressured by police to testify but eventually goes to the perps apartment and tells him not to take a plea bargain because the Attorney's office has no case without Jake's evidence. He then threatens the guy's life if he ever tries to blackmail him again. Something along those lines anyway.

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