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What is Bosnia like today?


i saw this film for the first time last night at a screening at my college. While i was growing up i remember hearing about the war(s) in what was formerly Yugoslavia and remember my parents talking about how brutal it was. Anyway, my question is, exactly what is the situation in Bosnia today? Have the tensions been relieved or is there a sense that war could break out again? How is rebuilding going etc. I think it would be a very interesting place to visit someday soon and would like to have a little information, preferably from natives or people that were there. thanks.

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To tell you the truth, the tension is still there but people are trying to get back to their normal lives. 10 years after the Dayton peace agreement there are still some scars visible.

At the recent soccer mach in Serbia against Bosnia, Serbians carried big signs that said "Noz, zica, Srebrenica" which means "Knife, barbed wire, Srebrenica". Srebrenica is the place where over 8,000 Bosnian people were massacred by Serbian Soldiers in less than 48 hours. So as you can see hate is still being taught to the next generations. I am an optimistic individual, but I think that that will never change. It is just in their History and their blood.

As far as traveling goes, it's safe for a tourist. I suggest the beautiful city of Sarajevo and Mostar.

Let me know if anything more interests you...

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i was under the impression that sarajevo was pretty-much bombed out. How's the reconstruction going? i heard it once was a very beautiful city

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Sarajevo is still a beautiful city. You can look for pictures online and you will see that it has a modern feel, with a historical past. For me it's one of the most beautiful places in the world because it has so much history behind it.

The reconstruction is going on still slowly because its hard to rebuild when there's crooked politicians in office. There are foreign companies coming in to invest in Bosnia though. (See Bosmal, Merkator).

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Mirzax thanks for mentioning Mostar... to me the most beautiful city in the world. I gotta say Sarajevo comes as a close second. :)

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How did I know that one of you was going to show up... Weird. Da nisi mozda iz Republike Srpske? Just a wild guess...

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probably he is. it happens everywhere...

B&H will be the same in few more years...we just have to wait patienly

everything will be ok...

btw: good movie by tanovic

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"btw: good movie by tanovic" LOL

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jalovica sounds a bit biased, so i'm going to go with mirzax on this one. Besides, even if it is such a terrible place that doesnt mean it's not worth seeing. There's more to be had than just a good time when travelling ;-)

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the most gorgeous place in the world , exept for some of the serbs that still live there.

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jebem vam mamu srpsku ...garbage men.

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Ljudi malo lakse. Nece ovakve budale nikad nestati, pogotovo ako vam dignu zivce. Zna cjeli svijet sta je bilo, sve je u dure, polahko...

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how bout everyone just stop cutting everyone up... im serbian and i can understand what u guys were saying.. obviously everyone is pissed off about what happened but i personally dont think there is any reason to hold grudges, everyone has family that had to deal with that *beep* maybe we should try to be mature young people and build a better future..one where our very similar cultures do not fear/hate one another.. just a thought...

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if you achieve this you'll get the Nobel for peace.

it's just friggin' human nature..

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Sarajevo got a lot of media coverage even though Mostar, during the Croat-Muslim fighting which started there around October 1992 and lasted into 1994, was much more damaged - specifically the Muslim half which was very heavily shelled by the Croats.

It was once known to be multiethnic, but now is almost purely Muslim - 90-95%. The Serbs were about 1/3, but now are a few percent.

The frontlines ran within the city - not far from the famous Holiday Inn seen in photos and on TV, and the city was divided into Muslim-controlled and Serb controlled parts. Croat forces were there as well - it was an open secret that Croatia had brigades stationed in Bosnia throughout the war.

Sarajevo is not a very big city and is surrounded by mountains. As I said it is no longer multiethnic, only a Bosnian Muslim city. Many Muslims from the Sandzak area - which straddles Serbia and Montenegro have moved in as well.

Sarajevo has been given an incredible amount of money from the international community and is rebuilt - except for buildings they purposely leave damaged to be reminders.

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"Sarajevo has been given an incredible amount of money from the international community and is rebuilt - except for buildings they purposely leave damaged to be reminders."


You say that like that's a bad thing...?

Sarajevo has also lured big time investors into the city. Check out www.Bosmal.com. I believe that it's things like this that will give us an advantage in the future.

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Doode, Bosnia is Iran of Europe.
Dirty, muddy, poor, stinky.

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Like DOODE, totally get off the reefer BRO. I mean like totally DOODE. Like you know ,like yea rite, AWESOME BRO.
DOODE, WHERE IS YOUR BRAIN.
Like, peace MAAN
Seriouslly DOODE, get off the reefer.

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ah, and you are oh-so-cool. europe is germany and france, right and the rest of it is crap, yeah ???

my, how I hate people like you. can I bite your head off ?

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"Alot of acholism and trash and debris everywere"
Does that description kinda remind you of NYC?
I think that man that you met is one in a million. Bosnians are not very happy with the Americans these days. There are people that are still wishing for the war but I think that none of them have the energy or the means to start one. In the recent world cup when Croatia lost a soccer game, there was a gun fight in the middle of Mostar. Croatian boys decided to vent their anger by shooting a few Bosnians. But the fight was stopped by the Bosnian police. Something that could've started another war was stopped without an American in sight. So I think that if the US left Bosnia we would be just fine. Just fine. Don't get me wrong, I live in the US and I love it. But after being here for a few years it makes you wonder why doesn't the government spend more time and money trying to fight crime and povery in their own country before they go off to be the police force of the world.

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Bosnia today is different, some jerks brought over their stupid weed!!We got druggies everywhere. In Bosnia today, we still have racist people, serb and non serb! They despise each other to death. This hate will never stop because it is passed from generation to generation..This isn't about religion anymore.

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"Bosnia today is different, some jerks brought over their stupid weed!!We got druggies everywhere."

You mean the Albanians? They are supposedly some of the biggest drugs traffickers in Europe.

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ahaha..its called rakija:) anyway..mirza.."noz,zica,srebrenica" is true parolle,to much used unfortunately:( but,bosnian muslims and croats have the parole of they own..it says "srbe na vrbe" witch means..hmm.literally "serbs on willows" or "lets hang serbs on willows" ,something like that..eccept this parole is much older that the serb one..dating from ww2..
you cant accuse only one side,or only one person ,Milosevic for example..there were serious crimes on all tree sides..and not one did more or less crimes..
thats the real true..and we must deal with it..
now,politians want to have all 6 former yugoslav republic in EU..
cant you see irony? they brake us apart,and then reunite us again?
then why the hell they breake us at all...thats the true tragedy..

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That's what I heard. I have some family in Dalmatia (Croatia) and they mentioned the recovery is still an ongoing process that will last for many more decades. The thing that bothers me, especially about today's Bosnia (which I've studied through my job) is that the standards are not only low, they aren't changing. They're not doing much to change. The economy level is not only low, it's almost non-existant. The money goes into building shopping malls. Do you really need 9 malls in a small town like Tuzla? Where are the factories this country so desperately needs? What about education? The cost of it is more than good and the education itself seems to be a bit on the strict side but where in the world is it accepted? If you finish a Uni in Bosnia and move to the US or Canada it'll hardly mean anything. You'll have to do a whole lot of post studies to even qualify to work in your field no matter how good you are. My point is, not much is being done to change this. I understand it's still a bit early. A decade after the war ended. The country is still recovering. The emotional and nostalgic wounds are still fresh and it'll take years (if ever) for the Serbs to feel comfortable around Bosnians or Croatians. I have a friend from Serbia. Her parents can't stand my guts ever since they found out I'm half Catholic, half Jewish (born on January 7th none less! Which is the Orthodox Church (Serbians, Greeks, etc) Christmas). Before they knew this they loved me. The attitude completely changed and questions arised what my parents do, where they're from, if anyone in my family was a Nazi (being part German and all). Once again my point is, there's so much tension in that culture and not much has changed. The wounds seem to be fresh. I don't know how it is there to live now. But I'd like to hear some positive change in the economy or politics. I'd at least like them to be part of the Euro Union in the next decade or so.

Jalovica, govno jedno srpsko!!!! Vi Srbi ste svi isti!! Pa kako mozete nakon svih ubojstava nad civilnim zrtvama koje ste prouzrocili u bosni i hrvatskoj, dalje se hvaliti i pretenciozno napadati svakog bosnjaka ili hrvata na kojeg naidete?? Iako je cijeli svijet shvatio TKO JE ZAPOCEO rat i sto ste radili u njemu, vi se jos pravite slijepi nad vlastitim zlocinima i hvalite zlocince poput Draze Mihalovica, Milosevica, Karadica ili sto je najgore Srebrenicu..... 8000 ljudi....5 dana....


Zar je to potrebno? Govoris kako su Hrvati ili Bosnjaci zrtve i kako ih Srbi tuze a ti radis isto. Ima bolji nacin da se to sve kaze bez da uvredjujes druge. Sta je Milosevic, Karadzic i ostali koji su ih podrzavali uradili tokom rata je uzasno ali ne treba generalizirati. To je proslost, zasto ne pokusas da se koncentrises na buducnost?

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Read this book and you'll know all the involvment ov US in teh balkans and the *beep* they did.

The Rational Destruction of Yugoslavia, by Micheal Parenti

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I've read that book a few months ago. It's not exactly my favorite or something I chose to blindly believe in. However, I do believe what the US of A does in foreign countries in war or need is sometimes unconventional and even cruel. It's not exactly news to me to find out about their dirty wrongdoings over there. Even the action of the United Nations can't all be justified and I don't support all of what they did. But speaking from my own point of view after reading document by document filled with orders and how they were processed I personally think they did (most of the time) all they could in their power. I have to add I disagree with many of the things they did though back in the day and I wasn't their biggest supporter exactly. I also don't put the UN in the same bin as the USA and their army. Yes, they're from the same country but its goals are completely different.

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I was in Bosnia this summer, and the reconstruction in my oppionion is going good, even though it is a bit slow. In Sarajevo, I did not see many signs of a war being there...other than (like it was said in a previous post) buildings left as reminders. Sarajevo is a great tourist town, with great looks at the history of Bosnia. I am very suprised at how much was left after the war...after all no body can erase history.

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