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Is that painful to english people?


I saw this movie and couldn´t believe how can anyone enjoy it, it´s a dull, less than standard movie with the only intention to get even by showing that one-of-the-pile goal scored by Owen comparing it with the great one scored by Maradona, and to dream one day England could beat Argentina with a hand-scored goal, and not much else. If anyone saw something good about this movie besides world cup footage, please tell!!!

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I totally agree with u!!That was the only intention for the movie!Ok i wouldn't be that disgusted if they beat Argentina with a 'normal' goal..not the hand of god for godsakes!Losers!

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I'm a big football fan. I got most of the jokes and therefore enjoyed it. If you don't know much about football then for a kick off this will hold very little interest to you. Only fans of the game , and indeed of the British game will get most of the material.
This is a movie that is catering to one audience : British/Irish football fans with at least a brief knowledge of the history of the game. If you don't fall into that category then the chances are you just plain won't like it. Its like me watching a baseball,American football etc movie. I just do not get it. I have absolutely no time for those sports and and can't relate to the passion and humour associated to them. However Bad News Bears looks good.

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Yeah, I agree, I'm a massive football fan and I loved the film. Even though I'm a big Scotland fan and it's about England's national team, thought it was great and reccommended it to all my mates, and they thought pretty much the same as me. As for the other point about watching baseball, American football,ice hockey e.t.c films, well I just don't get them. I tried to watch films about them, e.g Any Given Sunday, despite the good reviews, I thought it was dull but I pretty much put that down to the fact that I don't like (or understand) american football!!

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i liked the film had some good jokes in it, some that only football fans would understand. I thought the scene near the start of the film when the FA are looking for the next england manager. btw i would love it if england got one over on argentina with a weaker team just to make things a bit more fairer.
Maybe owens goal wasnt as good as maradonas but at least he doesnt cheat when he gets the chance.

Is it just me or does England have the worst luck in football?

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Don't know if you follow the game mate, but England did beat Argentina in the world cup and knocked them out in 2002. A little late to bring that up don't you think?

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hear hear

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yeah its a good film and u really have 2 b a football fan to undertand it (btw were r u from mc Gyver)

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I don't know that you have to be a football *fan* but it certainly helps to have an understanding of the mentalities that lie within English football. They try to give you a flavour of that with the quotes by former England coaches like Terry Venables, Kevin Keegan.

As an English man who has grown up watching the game, and watching England get knocked out of big tournaments, watching the tabloids drag managers into the ground and reading stories about the antics of so-called professionals; this film summarises them and parodies them.

It's laughing at how England's national sport is actually one of the worst run business in the world. Just as we all cringe at Ricky Gervais' performance as David Brent in "The Office", so it allows us to see the lack of professionalism in English soccerball!

BBS

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I've no clue about English football or even football in general (though I prefer it to American football it seems more straightforward). However I really enjoyed the film as a 'mockumentary' similar to what Rob Reiner did with 'This is Spinal Tap' or the stuff that Christopher Guest does. I found it really funny and even touching when Bassett recites "IF" at the press con. While the end was quite Hollywoodish (though funny how life imitates art eh?) in that they of course won, at least for a while, it didn't detract from the film too much I think. Really hope they have it for sale somewhere.

Tom

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"one-of-the-pile goal scored by Owen"

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I don't remember seeing Owen scoring in it.
If I remember correctly, he wasn't in it.
At all.
It was a brilliant film, and you just need to understand the basic fundementals of English football in the early ninties.
Are you American?

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In the scene at the physical training camp, they showed Owen's goal against argentina, along side maradonna's 'hand of god' goal against England and to the prat who thinks Maradonna's goal was better than Owen's. Two points:-

1) No way ! Owen's goal's is one of the best World Cup goals i have seen in my lifetime ( I was born in 1971)

2) At least Owen's goal was legitimate, so put that thought in your pipe and smoke it !


"Oh B*ll*cks i've sh*t myself!"

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Marradonna's goal was probably the second greatest world cup goal of all time. But being an Englishman naturally the Owen goal sticks in the mind as one of the most heart racing moments in football history. I was only about 12 at the time but I went totally bannanas lol.

For God, England, and St George

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Yeh and we still lost- very Mike Basset.

Answer to the question is it painful to English people?-No, we are so used to the pain of our hopeless under-achieving team, that this film is a very funny lampoon that they deserve.

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to the person who started this thread...................... SHUT UP U AMERICAN **** HEAD, JUST BECAUSE U FREAKS CANT PLAY FOOTBALL TO SAVE YOUR LIFE, AND ITS NOT CALLED SOCCER FOR **** SAKE

-Jack D H

Last movie seen: X-Men The Last Stand
Last DVD bought: Independence day

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i'm english. and i must say. it is a bad movie

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I hardly stopped laughing all the way through. My favoutite bit is when he finds the note from Ron Greenwood under the carpet - genius! If you don't find this funny, then either you don't know much about English football, or you've got something wrong with you.

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English? Then why not call it a film?

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wow I haven't checked this thread in months and soons i do the last post was 8 minutes ago, freaky !

With great power comes great....
You finish that line and i'll break your neck

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No it wasn't ....your post was 3 weeks ago!!

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I think when people refer to Maradonas goal, they refer to the 2nd one when he took on the english defence and rang rings round them.....

I've always preferred Owens goal to Maradona's(which was a class of genius), because 1. Owen wasn't a junkie or a cheat and 2. He was only 18, he was still a kid.

The only people who will really understand this film is The English and Football Fans in general.

The humour in it, especially in the stuffy old FA Boardroom is hilarious when they are looking for a new manager, one of them said something like 'we will have to look in Scandanavia for a new guy' because no-one english wanted the job, that year we appointed Sven Goran Eriksson, a Swede...

The players in it are based on real life players

Tonka - Gazza
Harpsy - Possibly Beckham
Smalls - Maybes Heskey(couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo)
Wacko - A mixture of Vinnie Jones, Dennis Wise and the likes

It just really shows the english attitude to losing at the end of the day

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I am argentinian... Football is my life.

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I have to disagree I thought this movie was absolutely hilarious. I watched it when I was younger and loved it and still do. I think some of the humour might be lost on people who aren't English or follow soccer. I just thought the whole thing was hilarious. Different strokes for different folks though.

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You must have a pretty *beep* up lifestyle if you don't laugh your socks off to this movie. Think this is the most funny film I have seen in many years. How can someone come on this forum and say "uh it was dull"......

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Sounds like envy to me. This film was hilarious. Pokes fun at English football all the way through. Very little little at other nations. Want a film from Argentina's perspective go sail to Argentina. I hear their film industry is smoking. The hand ball goal is hilarious. Do you know football history? Maradona cheats by punching a ball into the English goal in a WC game. Then Argentina have the nerve to say it's the hand of God. Wow. How outrageous is that.

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Excellent synopsis!!!

Gentlemen, England will be playing 4-4-f---ing-2

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Could you imagine Roy Hodgson dancing on a bar p155ed in only his vest and y-fronts

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Not before you mentioned it. Can't get it out of my head now though!!!

Bats, are they really blind or are they taking the piss?

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