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Was anyone else annoyed by the ending?


I was frankly bothered by the ending. She has this dream her whole life of being this big reporter in New York City and she gets the gig and gives it all up for some guy? I'm really tired of movies that show women giving up their dreams. (That's why I love Say Anything- she gets the guy and the dream.) I'm not saying love isn't important, but this movie never convinced me that their love was so great that giving up NYC was the better decision. And as a side note, how often do you see movies where the man gives up his dream for a woman? I'm not a crazy feminist, but the ending still aggravated me. Does anyone else agree?

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Agree completely. As a society sexism rears it's head in the machinations of modern cinema. We are conditioned to expect certain behaviors as part and parcel necessary for a "happy" ending.

Sadly, left unstudied, ignorance remains acceptable.




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First poster: I can see your aggravation, but this movie isn't meant as social commentary but as a heart-warming romance.
Second poster:
This is a movie, NOT real life or something like it....
Entertainment is mostly fake anyways. I mean why is it that every guy in every movie is usually 6 feet tall or above. In movies we like to see idealism. In other words we like to see that the women would be so in love that she would give up everything she had for the love of her life. It's idealism, not sexism. Princes die every day in the face of dragons to save the princess and you don't see me complaining.

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Hugh Jackman is 6'2", but Wolverine in the comics was 5'3".


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And Batman and James Bond are over Six foot, but not the current actors in those roles.

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I feel like drawing a conclusion on society as a whole and making a generalization as such is a little much for the movie Life or Something Like it.

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If Lanie had given up Pete to accept the job in NYC, she would have been another Deborah Connor. Her goal of a NYC reporter career was only her trying to please daddy, but at the loss of her sense of self. While I am more aggrivated with the scripts that present strong women characters giving it up for motherhood over career and loosing it because they really can't cope with having it all, I don't relegate the character of Lanie in the failed to realize her dream classification. She re-evaluated what her true desires were, in this case, the man she was most herself and not the expectation of what she thought she was supposed to be as a barbie-doll talking head.

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im just dissapointed she didnt die.

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I was disappointed too. I kept thinking its going to have a clever ending, she will somehow avoid being killed by a bus or something and just when you think she's safe, a freak accident out of nowhere happens and catches you off guard.

The prophet was right about everything else but wrong about this. There should have been explanation by him as to why he was wrong.

Also him at the ball park catching fly balls was a stupid and pointless scene.

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***** SPOILER WARNING ***** (a bit late seeing that I didn't START this thought but I am responding to it... )






Uh, sorry to sound a bit obvious here, but she DID die...

THEN she was resuscitated...

Remember the 'beeps'

Get it...?

To belabor the point a bit, he didn't say that she would STAY dead.




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the point was that because she was a reporter, and almost famous, she was wasting her life.

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I was very annoyed with the entire movie. What is up with these *beep* loser boyfriends discouraging women with their first hint of success? (The Devil Wears Prada...) He was upset as soon as the office through her the surprise party, and was encouraging her with how wonderful doing nothing was before that. He was also BUTT- ugly.

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I agree... and what has also annoyed me is that if she followed her dream and went in the elevator to meet the executive, she wouldn't have been shot. She would have gotten everything she had worked for.

*four peas....*

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As soon as she hesitated during the interview, I said to myself, 'the kind of reporter that she used to be is going to die, and she will lose the job', so Jack was right.

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>>>>>'the kind of reporter that she used to be is going to die, and she will lose the job', so Jack was right.

That's what's wrong with the movie's ending! The kind of person she was, died? What b$llsh*t. If the writer had a brain, he would have had her die on the operating table and then be resusitated. That way Jack would have been right.
The love vs. career decision is not a problem for me. Both men and women do have this choice to make. There have been many movies in which men choose love over career. In the movies, women should have as much right to choose love as men.

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Yes, to die and be resuscitated would have been better.

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I agree with AZINDN. Had she choosen her dream job and gone on to be a big time reporter she would have been just another Deborah, and clearly during her interveiew you could tell she had some regrats not going with her heart and ditching the job. Lanie also states at the end that a part of her did die, the part that didn't know how to live. So it wasn't just about getting the guy, but also gaining something from it all.

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Just saw this movie for the first time and have to say the original poster is right: those same exact thoughts went through my head. The subsequent posters had nothing to offer but the same old bull ssit obfuscation we've been fed for years.
If you don't agree, correct me by listing all the movies you know of where the male gives up his dreams and aspirations, no matter how shallow, to be with his woman , and live happily ever after. If, after all, it is just a plot device, you should have no trouble.


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Knocked up would be a movie where a man gives up his dream for a women. While she gets her dream and him. If someone actually has something to complain about it would be how most comedy romance movies make the guy out to be a loser and the women the best thing that comes into his life. But if you want to watch some feminist movies then go watch lifetime. I don't really watch comedy romances so I don't know how many movies have that same plot.




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Lifetime. Huh . I guess that's the channel I'd watch if I were feeling sorry for myself. I much prefer Oxygen.
I haven't seen Knocked Up, but isn't it a "comedy romance"? And isn't the guy a loser who got his dream girl drunk and preg?
Like I said, haven't seen it, just assumed the above from the ads and trailers.
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Yes its another movie where the guys get blamed for all the problems. And then they have to apologize to the women and change their life. What exactly do women have to complain about with romance comedy's? They are always the same bs and the guy is usually the loser/screwup. Is Oxygen another feminist channel that blames men all day?






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No, I think of Oxygen more as a channel for smart ass bitches like me (and proud of it) who think that what's good for the gander is ok for the goose , too. At least until we get cooked.
You wrote
"...If someone actually has something to complain about it would be how most comedy romance movies make the guy out to be a loser and the women the best thing that comes into his life...."
yeah and then the chick's life comes to a stop when she realizes that a life as a loser's wife is to be the pinnacle of her dreams. Not all films, all the time, but enough.
I have OCD but not hard enough to stop my life and glue myself to the TV so I can record every instance of subtle chauvinism to prove to you what we are speaking of.
When you hear phrases like "To the victor go the spoils" or "Might makes right" , do you know what they really mean? The winner can rewrite the rules so as to handicap any potential competition. I apologize for the abstraction, but, it really confuses me, this sort of cheating. Like not allowing women, or people of color to vote. It's not that far removed from stalking and killing your ex lover, because if you can't have her/him, then dammit, no one will.
We don't seem to be all that interested in self examination and amelioration these days.
It's all about exagerrated sense of entitlement and gratuitous arrogance.

I am white, but I get it when African Americans complain about the way characters of color are portrayed, maybe not so much now as before, but still.
And I think it especially sad and dangerous when the "weak" feel obliged to emulate the "bullies" in order to get ahead, or even.

Curiosity didn't kill the cat, bigotry did.

Have a good and useful life. Stay in school. Help when you can, but do take care of yourself.
And remember- without help, abused children grow up to be abusive adults.
I'll get off my soapbox now.

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The post I'm replying to sounds like a feminist University course regurgitated from a textbook. I'm not sure what you are trying to prove?

Both men and women have social stereotypes that we all have to deal with (me being a man), and I don't let those things bother me, and either should you!

So what, it's not "macho" to cry in a movie, but when something hits the right note I'll shed a tear and not care what anyone thinks of it; it's the 21st century who cares.

This is your quote {When you hear phrases like "To the victor go the spoils" or "Might makes right" , do you know what they really mean?}. Personally I've heard those phrases but would never correlate them to chauvinist origins... ?????? ... Obviously from a textbook.

Anyhow, get over yourself and realize that there are many good men out there that don't look down on women; as I'm sure there are many movies out there where plots originate from experiences people have lived...

Anyhow.

My 2 cents.

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"The post I'm replying to sounds like a feminist University course regurgitated from a textbook. I'm not sure what you are trying to prove? "
Being a college drop out, I am flattered. those words came from my heart. and my uneducated brain. from experience.

"Anyhow, get over yourself and realize that there are many good men out there that don't look down on women; as I'm sure there are many movies out there where plots originate from experiences people have lived..."

So where are those men, and how do I flag them?

"Both men and women have social stereotypes that we all have to deal with (me being a man), and I don't let those things bother me, and either should you! "

you mean "neither", and I do let them bother me: That's how change starts, by being bothered, or POed by something.

<<<Chauvinism, (pronounced /&#712;&#643;o&#650;v&#616;n&#618;z&#601;m/), in its original and primary meaning, is an exaggerated, bellicose patriotism and a blind belief in national superiority and glory. [1] By extension it has come to include an extreme and unreasoning partisanship on behalf of any group to which one belongs, especially when the partisanship includes malice and hatred towards a rival group. Jingoism is the British parallel form of this French word. [1]A popular contemporary use of the term in English is in the phrase male chauvinism.[2]>>>
the above def is from Wikepedia, not the ultimate ref, but , in this instance it will suffice for the purpose of definition.

"... Obviously from a textbook. "
Again_-I am so bloody flattered that you think my prose good enough to be mistaken for something that has been published for educational puposes.
If you are cute enough, why don't you dress in drag for a few days and really see what life is like for a woman.

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Knocked up would be a movie where a man gives up his dream for a women. While she gets her dream and him. If someone actually has something to complain about it would be how most comedy romance movies make the guy out to be a loser and the women the best thing that comes into his life. But if you want to watch some feminist movies then go watch lifetime. I don't really watch comedy romances so I don't know how many movies have that same plot.


What dream, running an amateur porn site? Oh yeah, he really sacrificed by giving up that idiocy and getting a real job with health benefits.

I'm with the first poster. I've had it with women sacrificing their dreams, goals and education to be with some jerk. Lanie could have met plenty of men in New York, or stayed with her good-looking, supporting, successful fiancee; a man whom she must have felt something for to get engaged to him in the first place.

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I completely agree with you. How about television as well? On the show "Friends", the character of Rachel (played by Jennifer Aniston), gives up her entire dream career in Paris for a man. Ross, who was her on and off again lover, did not want to sacrifice his career in New York. So, what does she do? She gives up her Paris dreams just so she can make HIM happy.

Ridiculous! It is time that women take the reins and make themselves happy!

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I completely agree with you - I had that exact same complaint when I watched the latest Friends episode. I mean, ok, Rachel could still find good jobs in NYC, but Ross would've had a harder time earning another tenured job as a professor, in a French-speaking country. I get that. But why couldn't have Ross just flown to Paris and then get her back? Why did he have to demand her to leave the plane?

I would've gone to Paris just for sight-seeing if nothing else. It's not like she couldn't call him or anything...

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What about "What women want"? Mel Gibson's character gave up his dream to please the girl.. he gets fired by her... and looses his job, just so she can have hers back... right?? and "Click" he looses his career and his dream job to be with his wife and kids again... and "What a girl wants"? Lord Dashwood quits his political career to go with his love... daphne's mother... and "A Guy Thing" he breaks up with the daugther of his boss!! to go with the one he truly loved, even though that meant getting fired... and "liar liar"?? ok... so he looses the job for the son.. but in the end he looses the job and dream for love.. and he hooks up again with his ex-wife... "bruce almighty" he gives up the anchor position... for love... because he wanted to get back with aniston... c'mon they are plenty of movies where the guys loose their dreams for love...

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A'men to that!

I bet feminists hate this post :D

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well I'm a girl.. but i have to give men the credit they deserve...

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Being a girl doesn't make you a feminist. You would be surprised to know how many misogynist women are out there.

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Not at all. His "arguments" didn't prove anything.

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The difference is that they already had a career and didn't give up on them. They only changed their perspectives in life. Mel Gibson was a HUGE *beep* in "What Women Want" and lost his job not because for the women of his dreams, but because he deserved it in the first place and decided to do a decent thing just once. In "Click"the guy is still is in job, but now he knows he needs to be with his family more. Not one of them gave up his dreams.

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I just watch the movie, and to tell the truth I enjoyed it.
I didn't see it like she left her carreer dream for love, but like she left her "career dream" for a more meaningful life, that in this case happens to be the guy. After realizing that she wan't going to die so soon (or thinking she wasn't) she just decided to live like it was the last day, like when the strike, that she got loose of herself (no hair, no make up, no perfect dress...)and she was just herself.
But anyway, I wasn't raised here, and nobody ever told me that I coudn't follow my carrer dream or that I should chose love over anything...

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The ending sort of bothered me because it was a cop out and also needing a voice-over to explain what really happened sort of reveals that the director didn't really make it apparent that "she died" or "was dying" throughout the movie.

That being said, I was annoyed with Pete's reaction to her unexpected success. He made her seem very selfish in being happy that she acheived something so unexpected. I understand that after dealing with that awful woman that she had doubts but yeah, it was a bit of a let down.

I'd kind of like to see a French remake. Just out of curiousity cos they don't give a damn if the audience leaves the theater feeling "satisfied". There would be a much more interesting take there.

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