What An Insult To Pete Willis


Considering that Atomic Mass was essentially Pete's band and Rick Savage was the only member of Def Leppard that remained; the movie Hysteria almost mocks and belittles him. They portray him as an ugly, immature, petulant oaf with an inferiority complex who had nothing better to do than light his farts, spill drinks on people, stuff his crotch, whine about being short, be a nasty drunk and get into arguements with his bandmates. And while everybody supported or tolerated Steve Clark; Willis was booted from the band while Clark continued to drink himself to death.

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Whether or not Pete did all the things you mentioned, his drinking WAS interfering with the band's progress. He would be late for rehearsals, if he showed up at all, and half the time when he did, he was drunk. It would be the same as you or I at our jobs. Stay home and get drunk and party all you want...but miss work often enough or show up drunk and see how long you keep your job! That's why everyone "supported or tolerated" Steve. He did his partying on his own time....not when there was work to do.

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have any of you actually looked into the history of the band? Pete Willis was not fired for leaving the stage to have a quick drink. It was a lot less dramatic than the movie portrayed.
It was because his drinking simply interfered with what the band was trying to accomplish while they were recording Pyromania, not right after a concert. And, like Steve Clark, they tolerated and supported Pete Willis until it reached the point where it simply couldn't be done anymore. According to everything I've read and heard in interviews, Steve was still a nice guy when he got drunk, and even though he had an alcohol problem, he could still be counted on. Hell, he was even seeing a psychiatrist during the recording of Pyromania to try and combat his drinking. Pete was beyond negative and didn't realize or even care what he was doing to himself and the band.
Ugly? Damn right. He was the least attractive member, and he was very short compared to the others. Look at a picture of the band when he was in it.
Having said that, wouldn't you agree that firing Pete was the best thing? Especially since it made him decide to quit drinking.

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I agree with this fellow. If any of you were real fans, you prolly should've read Animal Instinct: The Def Leppard Story, and found out that he was cool with it. I'll quote different sections:

"But there was another problem that required a much more drastic solution. Pete Willis was still drinking heavily and the resulting actions were jeopardizing the completion of the album. When the band was recording the background handclaps of Rock of Ages, Pete was so out of it that his hands kept missing each other. Pete was not Def Leppard's only problem drinker. During the Pyromania sessions, Steve had taken some time off to see a psychiatrist about his drinking. But Pete's tippling had brought an unhappiness and frustation that created friction within the group. As Cliff Bunrstein explains,"Steve is a real gentle person. And if he's got problems, he's quick to admit them. He doesn't blame the world for them. With Pete, it was 'this sucks, that sucks, everything sucks.'He would externalize his problems, say they were caused by something else and make everybody miserable."

Okay, now in just that quote, it points several things out.

1) Steve Clark is misportrayed in the movie.
2) Pete Willis is misportrayed as well.
3) That Pete was making the band uncomfortable.

Another section:

"The last straw was when Pete came into the studio to record his solo for Stagefright. He was, in Mutt's words, "pissed as a skunk, I could smell it when he walked in. But he was trying to not act like he was drunk. I thought it was funny at first. When he tried to play his solo, I said 'Okay, Pete, here we go.' and it was just plink-dah-plink-da-da-plink. He'd try it again - same vibe. HE could hardly hit the string right. Finally, for his sake more than mine, I finally chewed him out. I told him, 'Go home and don't even show your face in the studio again until you really know your stuff.'"

This shows that Mutt was getting fed up with him as well.

Another quote:

""He was nice about it," Pete says of Joe's phone call."He said,'I'm really sorry, Pete, I didn't want to have to be the one to tell you this, but I got the job anyway.' After that, I knew what was coming. I said I wanted to come down and talk about it. I didn't want to change their minds as much as ask them why - although deep down I knew why."

Point here: Pete accepted the fact that the band could not continue with him and his problem. And he did not raise a ruckus about it. The movie misportays that.


I hope this helps anyone who reads it, b/c honestly I think Pete was a good guitar player, although my opinion is Steve was better. But the movie misportrays both of them, and to an extent the making of Pyromania mostly b/c of the fact that Phil didn't help write Photograph at all. But whatever. It's a movie that helps people see more into Def Leppard.

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I really don't get in what way you think Steve was misportrayed, but whatever!
I don't know if I got your words right here, but it feels like you're saying Pete Willis was bad for the band since he was "ugly". How can you seriously stand up for that? That's a horrible thought!

By the way... Was there anyone in the movie who was NOT misportrayed?



I wish I was an irishman with golden hair and tapping feet

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You forgot to add "Signed, Pete Willis" at the bottom of your post.

:D

CLG

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Epic!


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True but Clark's drinking didn't effect them on stage Willis's did though...and I have a question how do you know he wasn't like that when they started the band???? How do you know what really went on when he was still in Def Leppard?

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Well, maybe if Joe and the others would had the intuition Loreli had, and "fired" steve, as they fired pete, maybe he would be still alive, but as far as Joe only saw that Steve's alcoholism didn't interrupt the progress on the band... Maybe Joe regrets now

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They gave Steve a 6 month leave of absense to try and work out his problems. The end of it never came, because he died before it ended. They did everything they could to help him. I remember reading in a article, that it was possible that Steve would have been fired from the band, if he has lived, and not gotten better.

Steve was like their brother. They did all they could, but part of Steve just didn't want to be here. In the end, that part won.

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Steve was a nice and lovely person despite the fact he was an alcoholic while Pete Willis was rude, this is difference.The band thought Steve was separate but fate they avoided taking this decision would have been probably very painful for them, but the death of Steve has been both a tear and a deliverance. Any fan can understand that and the death of Steve still an injury for many fans.

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