Jane + Peter


Am I the only one who was disappointed that Jane and Peter didn't fall in love by the end of the movie? I wanted to see that cute little kiss, lol, that's what I saw the movie for...

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Personally, I think there shouldn't have been a kiss. Peter is too shallow to fall in love.

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well if we're talking on Barrie's point of view...Peter forgot about everything very quickly...he forgot about hook after hook died, he forgot about the lost boys and forgot about tinkerbell after she died...and the only person he remembered was wendy...so i would say that he was in love with he even if he didnt admit it.

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Peter is subpost to be an unchanging child who does not grow or develope into adulthood which means he probably couldn't have a girlfriend who would infact grow up.

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im disspointed too

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If my daughter (who loves this movie and watches it at least once a week) is a representative sample of the target demographic, then most of the faithful viewers would be totally grossed out by a kiss.

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Iwa s dissapointed too. I was just waiting for them to kiss or something...

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When I first saw RTN I hadn't seen the original Peter Pan, or not for a long time cuz I didn't remember it at all. Funny as that was. So after I saw RTN I promptly bought the original, realizing how much better it was. But still, having not seen the original first, I did kinda think there was a little 'thing' between Peter and Jane. Tho after watching the original, it wasn't nearly as big as the 'thing' between Peter and Wendy. True I do know of Barrie's intent to not make Peter not have these grown-up feelings of love, but the fact is that there has always been chemistry between Peter and Wendy or some sort in the story. Wendy as far as I can tell was mainly Peter's only true romantic interest. So now I just sorta pass Jane off. Between them it wasn't really anything more than a smirk at each other. I was MORE disappointed that there wasn't a kiss between Peter and Wendy, not Peter and Jane. Just my view on it.

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peter loves(sort of) wendy and wouldnt just fall in love with the next girl he sees, peter is shallow but not that shallow

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Is it just me or does no one remember the Peter Pan based movie "Hook" with Robin Williams as Peter Pan? It wasn't an animated movie or anything, but it was with real actors. In the movie, Peter(Robin) married Jane, wendy's daughter, and had children after moving to the real world instead of Neverland. Just thought everyone should know since some of you were expecting Peter and Jane to fall in love or at least kiss at the end. After all, i was one of them...oh, and i'm not sure if in the movie "hook", they just made up everything instead of using the real story, but that's what i remember from the movie.

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Peter actually married Wendy's granddaugher Moira. From the moment he saw her sleeping in bed, while talking with old Wendy, he wanted to give her a "real" kiss. He never returned to Neverland.

-But, how the hell did Tootles get to London? Peter must have gone back to Neverland to say bye to the Lost Boys? Tootles wanted to go with him?

K-RY

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Oh, right. My mistake, it's been years since i've seen that movie, so i mixed up Jane with Wendy's granddaughter. Now that i think about it, i remember in the movie Wendy was really old, a lot older than the average age that people would have a daughter around the same age as Peter anyway. Did that make much sense? oh well...

As for Tootles being in London, i have no idea. I assume that he probably went back to Neverland too. Not really sure, they didn't go to much detail about that in the movie.

*~*Chelsea*~*

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-But, how the hell did Tootles get to London? Peter must have gone back to Neverland to say bye to the Lost Boys? Tootles wanted to go with him?

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In "Hook", old Tootles is in London because in the original story of Peter Pan, that "Hook" is based off of, at the end when Wendy, John, and Michael leave, they take all of the lost boys with them back to London. All of them desired a real mother in a loving home, so they went back with them and got adopted by Wendy's parents. This is why Tootles and Wendy are both very old; they both went back to the London at the same time.

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hi in the jane + peter forum you said that peter married jane but infact he married Wendys granddaughter and the daughter of Jane, Moira just thought you would want to know.

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I haven't watched the original one, but when I saw a sing along song (Can You Feel The Love Tonight in Lion King but there are two guys singing, not Moira Kelly or Simba), there's a very romantic scene between Peter and Wendy. Did they kiss in 'Peter Pan'? Jane + Peter may look like a good couple. But this decision is tough... Jane or Wendy?

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your close jadedragon.. but in Hook (1991) Peter married Moira, Wendy's granddaughter.. so this movie can be viewed as an inbetweener from Peter Pan to Hook.

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I was actually a little disappointed when they didn't. Of course, I'm watching a child's movie when I'm 14...but I always loved Peter Pan. But it would've been cute if Jane and Peter did fall in love and have a little kiss. There was little 'thing' going on in the second, and first, movie of Peter Pan. Peter and Jane would be cuter though.

But the whole point of the movie is to keep them young and trapped in the life of childish behavoir (which isn't a bad thing :P), it would've ruined the ideal of one of the most important characters! Peter Pan (obviously).

But still, there should be, like, a PG version too where they do kiss, rather than just a G, where they keep it to a typical 8 year old's liking.

That's enough of my ranting though!!

It still would've been cute though!! :)

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I don't think Peter could fall in love. IT's a trait that kind of clashes with his creed to not grow up.

A-ha-ha-ha, you're really weird!-Willy Wonka

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no, i didnt want that to happen.

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If peter fell in love, the story would get a little warped. But I wouldn't mind, but not with Jane, kiss with Wendy. Jane, isn't deep enough. Thats what fanfictions are for!

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Wendy did kiss Peter in the book. When she first met him but kisses were thimbles and thimbles were kisses. Actually, Hook (1991) had a slight error because Wendy's graddaughter was Margaret and not Moira but they probably just got that from Wendy's first middle name "Moira"
But anyway, I think he should have ended up with Wendy because she was the one person whom he did not forget. I haven't seen either Disney movie of Peter Pan in a while, but Jane was very keen on not believing in make believe and fairys, right? Well, I suppose I like that she had a bit more of a character than the original Jane (who in my opinion was a desperate version of Wendy with her "Oh, please Peter. Take me with you!" attitude)
Hahaha, I have once again strayed from the original topic... oops wrong section, I thought this was a "Wendy or Jane" topic. But either way, I'm keeping this up.

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According to the book, Peter never grew old, and never fell in love. ( Thus I don't like Hook >_< ) The only pure "love" he had was with Wendy... He didn't forget her... but he didn't always remember her. He is a child. This book was orignally written for adults ( I know I know this is about peter pan II but still. ) I don't think Peter and Jane would make a good couple just for the fact that her mother had such fond feelings about him. ( no I don't mean that like loving desireing feelings. ) I just think there is something more between Wendy and Peter. The first movie shows more of a connection between younger peter and Wendy. The second movie kind of made him grow up more, they made him act more like a teen then a child. I loved the original movie when I was little, and I went and watched PP II and I was astonished at how aweful it was.

I'll leave you with this...

"As you look at Wendy, you may see her hair becoming white, and her figure little again, for all this happened long ago. Jane is now a common grown-up, with a daughter called Margaret; and every spring cleaning time, except when he forgets, Peter comes for Margaret and takes her to the Neverland, where she tells him stories about himself, to which he listens eagerly. When Margaret grows up she will have a daughter, who is to be Peter's mother in turn; and thus it will go on, so long as children are gay and innocent and heartless. "

http://www.literature.org/authors/barrie-james-matthew/the-adventures-of-peter-pan/chapter-17.html

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This might have like, nothing to do with the board's original purpose, but that ending of the original book somehow seems sad to me. I'm not sure exactly why. I guess because it seems Peter's life seems to lack meaning deeper than the day-to-day? Or that Peter's connection with Wendy seems less special if it is so soon forgotten and repeated with each of her descendants? I dunno, but I'm glad they didn't do it that way, that ending gives me an emptiness that seems completely contrary with that of the first movie.

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This might have like, nothing to do with the board's original purpose, but that ending of the original book somehow seems sad to me. I'm not sure exactly why. I guess because it seems Peter's life seems to lack meaning deeper than the day-to-day? Or that Peter's connection with Wendy seems less special if it is so soon forgotten and repeated with each of her descendants? I dunno, but I'm glad they didn't do it that way, that ending gives me an emptiness that seems completely contrary with that of the first movie.


I think that was Barrie's original point to the ending; to show exactly how sad and empty and to a point, meaningless Peter's life really was. Even Wendy said in the 2003 movie to Peter, "You are most ungallant and deficient!" To which Peter says, "How am I deficient!?" "You're just a boy." Even at the end end of the film you can see it that he wanted to stay with Wendy and have some purpose deep down, but his resistance to grow up prevented him to do it, which is very sad. It's almost like Peter's his own worst enemy really. Kind of deep when you really think about it.

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I don't like the romantic elements in Peter Pan. This was pretty good.

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