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Here`s what i have to say about this film


First of all i really HATE Woody Allen since a long time i can`t stand him (as an actor) but when i did see the trailer of this movie i thought it was funny so i went on to rent it and it WAS funny except for that fact that i would love to see someone else in the Val Waxman role (okay Allen could have ONLY directed it)what do you say if i suggest Mel Brooks because he are actually in need of a comeback for real and Allen had no "time off" from the big blockbusting scenes

One of the few reasons why i love it was not Allen it was the fact that i love movies about moviemaking/movies so let`s see which moviemaking movies that are good: State and Main is a bullseye it`s the most hilarious one, Bowfinger is almost as good but it would helped with a better score (David Newman did infact write one great cue: Fed-ex delivers/Finale) and finally S1m0ne is a so-so movie

Any response?

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Woody Allen is not now, nor has he ever been an actor. Even he admits that. The question is not whether you like him as an actor or not, it's whether or not you like the character he plays in his movies.

Val Waxman is the Archtypical Woody Allen role. I can't imagine anyone else playing it. Yes, they could have had some other actor doing a wWoody impression (ala Branagh in Celebrity) but it wouldn't have been the same.

Since you aren't a Woody fan it was interesting to hear that you liked Hollywood Ending. I think it is one of the most accessible films he has made in years and his take on Hollywood was dead on.

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I would have to disagree that Woody has NEVER been an actor.
I think there is at least one glaring example of the Woodster totally subsuming his usual screen persona and really taking on a brilliantly written part - that is Danny Rose in Broadway Danny Rose.

True, there are some elements of Woody's usual characters but he is a much more confident person in this film. He is totally loyal to his loser clients and shows warmth towards Mia Farrow's character later in the film.

I think it's his best performance. It's probably also more pronounced in the case of Ms Farrow who is TOTALLY unlike her usual screen characters in Woody's films. She really plays a tough 'broad' with great flair and is in no way her normal mousy self.

This is my very favourite Woody film - as a bonus, it is totally hilarious!!

cheers

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Woody Allen is a filmmaker. THE GREATEST FILMMAKER OF ALL TIME! and if you dont think Woody Allen is a great talent, than there is something about you I seriously dont want to know about.

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WOODY ALLEN IS A GENIOUS!!!
God bless Sean Penn

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That's Genius, Genious.

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Well, i wouldn't go that far. But he's one of the greatest (and most undervalued) filmmakers of our time. BTW he's far more popular here in Europe - where he's considered an interlectual genius and a virtual god to many - than in the US.

www.movie-watchers.de - Deutschlands schlaueste Filmdatenbank

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He absolutely is the greatest, I couldn't agree more. How anyone can not like him - his humour, his direction, the writing, the beautiful sets, the music, the art direction - he's just perfect, and we are blessed by his prolific film making of a movie a year since the sixties - I wish he could live forever.

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Woody Allen is not a great actor, but he is a reasonable actor within a very limited range. He knows that range and sticks to it. Whatever he says, he does a good enough job with the roles he gives himself.

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I perfer the word "performer" for Woody, because that's what he is. And as far as being in his films, he's good at performing. Acting, not quite, but performing.

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Woody is a much better actor than Quentin Tarantino.

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Archer1949,
I hate to start a debate with you, but upon reading "Conversations with Woody Allen", I came across a passage in which Allen emphatically denied the claim that Branagh is "doing a Woody Allen impression". While watching the film, it's easy to assume that Branagh is doing just that, with the stumbling over his words and the endless neuroses, but Allen made a point to state that Branagh is not doing an Allen impression in Celebrity.

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He's good.

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Hollywood Ending is a GREAT Woody Allen movie. Very funny, great cast, great commentary on Hollywood, great insight into movie making! The worst Woody Allen movie is the one where Ed Norton sings.

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This is a decent Woody film. Made simply to be a slapstick comedy with lots of laughs and a good neurotic Woody performance. I think it is ridiculous to say that "the one where Ed Norton sings," or as I like to call it, Everyone Says I Love You, is the worst Woody Allen movie. How could you rate Hollywood Ending or any of Woody's films from 2000-2003 as better than a light-hearted retread of American musicals. Everyone Says I Love You is one of Woody's best!!!

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These type of comments made by KatieCruise are what make me wonder if people who say they like Woody Allen even really GET Woody Allen and his films. "The one where Ed Norton sings." I can only assume that the perpetrator of this statement either: A.) Can't appreciate a musical, even when it's constantly sprinkled with Allen's classic humor, or B.) Doesn't really understand Allen's style of storytelling, which is a unique style in today's CGI-riddled Hollywood.

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I initially found this film to be terrible, until I realized that I was missing the point. The end result of the film is an additional, deeper commentary on the state of film making in this country (particularly Hollywood). --This is not to suggest that you didn't realize this, nor to challenge your opinion. Frankly, even realizing this, I still do not like this movie. However, it made me realize that it's not so much that Woody's gone soft, as I didn't appreciate his techniques.

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I also enjoyed HOLLYWOOD ENDING very much and I never thought of it until you verbalized it, but I think Mel Brooks could have been quite effective in the Val Waxman role, although I can't imagine Mel having any onscreen chemistry with Debra Messing or Tea Leoni, who like all of Woody's ladies, are too old form.

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I liked this movie, I have to admit that the charecter was typical for allen and that in some moments it was almost annoying but i enjoyed all the movie, because it was i think typical Allen work with also good situations and good charecters funny and in some ways very dramatic with features of tragedy!
i think it is one of his good movies. I enjoyed it that much.
He plays like Allen, He directed it in Allen direction way and It's written in Allen style and the whole movie is A Woody Allen Film!!!

it is all ok in it and if you like allen you like this one too!

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Anyone who is even faintly acquainted with the work of this genius filmmaker would already know that the man is a director and a writer, not an actor and to hit this board and say that you would want to see someone else play Val Waxman, says to me that you know nothing about the man or his work and probably shouldn't be watching his films anyway since you stated earlier that you hate Allen as a rule, which is also ironic since most Woodyphiles hated this film and you liked it, so what does that say?

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Woody Allen's talent shows as a writer, who likes to direct the majority of his pictures so has full dominance over how his films should express the feelings and emotions to the audience. he is the only person who knows what is best for his work to be presented.

to me, many people do not understand the art and craft of Woody Allen. Allen, being the person who doesn't really care how much money the film makes at the box office, writes his films to indicate to the audience how he feels about life in it's entirely. hence, the fact he always plays a character who is often outspoken, a loser, out of touch or an outsider who sees the behaviour of other humans as being "imcompative" and "selfish" with no grasp whatsoever, of how to cope in what should simple situations but turn into big nasty complicated ones and let others get in the way of their "true" feelings and ends up suffering usually because he struggled to make sense and to valulate them appropriately.

many people hate Woody Allen, primarly because he throws all his feelings towards personal things which matter to him and bashes them. he likes to pose questions in his films about life which are very controversial. For example, in Annie Hall, the climax of Alvy and Annie at the end, when they part seen through a restuarant corner window. Allen as voice-over states "that the purpose of a relationship (for most people) to get the eggs" where you see a continous line of traffic on the rear left hand side of the film constantly moving. the point was that to keep the world moving, people should get together, make love, have babies and break up. many people "would" object to that, since they never behave like that and that it is too far-fetched. they would also feel very angry that someone is denounces their feelings because he apparently does not understand why they do what they do.

who agrees?

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You will regret your words when he dies and all the people starts worshipping his work

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